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Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: Yes, I think so.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: That is not the case. As I have given the figures, the carbon tax is a progressive tax. It is taxation being used for the deep retrofitting of our housing stock, as well as to tackle fuel poverty issues. Therefore, it is a critically important tax to aid in this progress around the retrofitting of homes.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: It is important that we have energy security in future. What we are exploring is a short-term measure to tide us over the next few years as we ramp up renewables. What will ultimately address our energy security issues will be the significant ambition concerning and ramp up of renewables. Therefore, the Government is addressing a short-term challenge through this measure. It is important...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: We can come back to the Deputy with a breakdown of those figures.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: I do not have the figures to hand but the amount to be procured has been assessed by both EirGrid and the CRU and is based on a number of factors, such as expected demand increases, including from data centres. However, the primary need for the temporary generation units is not to address the overall demand, but to meet peak demand on days when there is low renewable output and...

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: The Deputy will appreciate that it is not my area of work. I think the B2 equivalent is a standard and is consistent with previously-stated standards. As far as I am aware, the target around 400,000 heat pumps is still on target.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: There will be a note to follow on that.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: Yes.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: It is stated in the opening statement that really, the reason behind the underspend is supply chain issues in delivering targets in the current year, 2022. They will be met into 2023.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: It is our anticipation that we will be able to meet the targets. We recognise that these supply-chain issues are global. They are not just confined to us here. The Government is trying to address them and we anticipate the situation will improve.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: We will get a note back to the Deputy on that.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: I think the 450 MW will cost €40 per household. I do not have the figure to hand for the 200 MW.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: That could be correct. I am not sure.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: One should be mindful that as well as the blanket measure around the €200 rebate, there have been targeted measures around addressing fuel poverty. The upcoming budget will address more issues for families and vulnerability around fuel poverty.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: If it is okay, I will refer back to the Acting Chair with figures on that, specifically on those low-cost measures. Again, I do not have figures to hand on solar panels.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: I appreciate that.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: It relates across all schemes given the challenges there have been not just with the supply chain but also labour. Certainly, deep retrofits take longer and there is a longer lead-in time for them as well. There are significant of challenges as we ramp up these schemes. The SEAI has been available to Deputies to give detailed briefings on all the schemes, and I encourage them to avail of that.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: Yes.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: My understanding is that they factored in an overestimation of the number of households. When the full payment had been paid out to households there was €20 million left over from that.

Select Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications (Supplementary)
(12 Jul 2022)

Malcolm Noonan: A number of Deputies raised this issue. We will refer back to the committee with a response on it. To refer to the Acting Chair's, the SEAI is reviewing the end of June numbers currently and will revert to the Department shortly with specific detailed numbers for the rest of the year. That will give us a better picture of our position towards the end of the year.

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