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An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I have read the full Bill and if Deputy Ross would allow me to conclude what I am about to say-----

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: -----Deputy Ross proposes that Members of the Oireachtas should choose our judges, but only those unconnected to political parties in government, which is what is in his Bill. Of course, I read Deputy Ross's Bill before I came into the House.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: Would Deputy Ross like me to quote the Bill?

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: Indeed, but, as Deputy Ross will be aware, I served with him-----

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I merely want to respond to the point made.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the Ceann Comhairle. I ask Deputy Ross to respond to what I say. I have read the Deputy's Bill, I have read the comment, and in terms of what I myself said, I acknowledge that the Bill makes reference to the political parties that are in government. I ask, before he launches any attack on what I have to say, that I might be afforded the luxury of saying it. I can assure the House...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I will conclude on this point.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I will conclude on this point. In every other comparable common law country that has established such a board, Scotland, England and Wales, Northern Ireland, parts of Canada and Israel, such a commission includes members of the legal profession and judiciary. I will end on that note. I assure Deputy Ross that I read his Bill. I was aware of the distinction he made regarding who would...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I invite him to give me an example-----

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: -----of how judges' decision making processes have been politically influenced.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: That is what I am asking you to do because that is the charge Deputy Ross has made.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: Deputy Ross referred to obvious political interference. I ask the Deputy and those who support him to provide the House with an example of how decisions our Judiciary made were influenced in the way Deputy Ross has alleged. The Deputy said he could not prove it because it was in their minds. All I am asking is for an example of a decision made by a member of the Judiciary that was...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I look forward to the Deputy providing me with that example.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: It has been alleged that there is political interference in how our Judiciary operates. I want Deputy Ross to give me an example of this. He referred to the fact that an accident has never happened. I want an example of an accident that might have happened. I suggest that an accident has not happened because we have an independent Judiciary which has exercised its powers throughout the...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Ceapacháin Bhreithiúnacha) 2013: An Dara Céim - Thirty-fourth Amendment to the Constitution (Judicial Appointments) Bill 2013: Second Stage [Private Members] (21 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: The Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Alan Shatter, has asked me to convey to the House his regret for not being in attendance today. He is in Greece attending a meeting of the European Union Defence Ministers, a matter of considerable importance in the context of his work as Minister for Defence. I understand he made a number of personal requests to Deputy Ross to re-arrange this...

Fines (Payment and Recovery) Bill 2013: Report Stage (19 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank Deputy Mac Lochlainn for raising this issue. I note he raised it on Committee Stage also. I will give him a full explanation and response to the point he made but I will begin by making two overall points. The first overall point is that if such an issue needed to be dealt with, this is the wrong body of law within which to raise it. My advice is that to deal with the issue the...

Fines (Payment and Recovery) Bill 2013: Report Stage (19 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I so move.

Fines (Payment and Recovery) Bill 2013: Report Stage (19 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: I did not dispute the Deputy's right to express her ideological view on this issue. What I did was engage in a debate on it. I disagree with her and her assessment of the Bill. I will respond to each of the points she has made. First, on the ability of a person to pay, section 5(2) states "Where a person of full age is convicted of an offence, the court shall, in determining the amount of...

Fines (Payment and Recovery) Bill 2013: Report Stage (19 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: Absolutely.

Fines (Payment and Recovery) Bill 2013: Report Stage (19 Feb 2014)

Paschal Donohoe: May I respond?

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