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Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I will come to how it relates to the evidence. Does Mr. O'Brien accept what I am saying about paragraph 5.4.2?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I did not do that.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I did not do that. I will refrain from saying that it might be appropriate for me to interpret that that is what Mr. O'Brien has done but I will not make that interpretation. I will stick with the facts.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: No, I am not.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Purcell can answer if he likes. Mr. O'Brien stated the three individuals were in his head when he gave evidence.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: He inadvertently stated they had all left the public service. He has clarified this and identified those three people as three people who made a decision and had a dual role. If we take the five individuals, H6 is mentioned. Is H6 still employed by the Health Service Executive, Tusla or anywhere else in the public service?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Okay. Let us look at the word "others". The others still in public service include H6.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Okay. That is to the best of Mr. O'Brien's knowledge.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Could that change?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, depending on searches or more digging or-----

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Let me use up the few seconds left to me because this is a very serious issue. The others to whom Mr. O'Brien refers-----

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Great.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am sticking rigidly to the point. Mr. O'Brien came and gave evidence. He had three people in his head and it turns out that one of them had not left the service. I am moving on because the Chairman has asked me to do so. I am identifying and speaking now about H6. Mr. O'Brien is putting H6 among the others who are still employed. By whom is H6 employed? Does Mr. O'Brien know where H6...

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Great. Will Mr. O'Brien clarify the position for us?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I do not want the person identified. Mr. O'Brien is here to correct the record. He inadvertently made one mistake. I am just identifying H6 - there are other people - who was identified by the inquiry as one of the key decision makers. Is that person currently with Tusla, the Health Service Executive or any other public body? I ask for a "Yes" or "No" answer.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good. Is Mr. O'Brien in a position to clarify what position the person holds, where he or she is employed and whether he or she has been promoted?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: That is fine. I accept that.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is H6 working for Tusla?

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. O'Brien can say "No" if he wants.

Public Accounts Committee: Correction of Record of Meeting of 2 February 2016 (23 Mar 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am entitled to ask the question.

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