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Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (25 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Will I still get something in writing giving the precise wording of the alleged rule?

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (25 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Will I get in writing the precise wording of the alleged rules?

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (25 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I apologise; I cannot hear with the interruptions.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (25 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Will you send me something in writing specifying the rules?

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (25 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: There will be further discussion about this in this House, a Leas-Chathaoirligh.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I join in welcoming the ambassador of Luxembourg. If she is around next Easter, I will be delighted to sell her some of those knitted chickens with eggs in support of the apostolic works of the Elphin diocese and the wonderful humanitarian work being done by various missionaries from our parishes abroad. I did not hear whether it is a Fabergé egg she is distributing, but if she has any...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I wish to make some general points. Amendment No. 10 amends page 57, between lines 36 and 37. I just want to get it because it relates to what I want to say. The amendment would provide that “The surrogate mother only should be allowed decide on any reduction of embryos and must not be obliged by the commissioning adults or their agents to undergo an abortion.” The Minister...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I understood that the Minister was going to answer the question that I asked at this point. Will the Minister answer the question I asked, which relates to a different amendment? If he does not mind, will he give us his rationale for not accepting amendment No. 10, which is for discussion at this stage? I realise it is difficult because there are many amendments. I just want to be able to...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I feel that because we are in this brave new world, which I and many other people oppose, which involves, frankly, a commodification of children, as many people see it, and a deprivation of the rights of women. I realise we are talking in the context of domestic surrogacy but some of the same principles apply to the dangerous area of international surrogacy. It is important, and we had a...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I consider it relevant but I am happy to wait. It is a reasonable question and it deserves a careful answer. I suppose I consider it relevant because I am talking about amendment No. 12, which states: “No single man shall be allowed to undertake surrogacy.” I am talking about a situation where a single man, a biological male at least, but who may have availed of the 2015...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: We are not all pro-life.

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It does, but I would like to respond. I thank the Minister for his response. There are a number of charges in what he said. I am not going to take personally anything the Minister said but he introduced a note of moral judgmentalism vis-à-vis other people in his comments. I will not up the ante other than to say that I think the Minister’s moral and political vision, as...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: You used those words.

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I just want to address what the Minister has said, if I may. I think it is a rather sneering attitude to a position that is more correctly described as philosophical. We all have our philosophical views. Where I differ from the Minister and where he differs from me is that I believe that human life begins at conception. I believe that is a very scientific and evidentially respectable...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: We will.I am only responding to what was said, and I intend to do so respectfully. I have exposed, first of all, that the Minister's words are not borne out by reality. He has not shown respect for alternative views. He then went on to say that the position underlying the amendments here suggests that although I believe a woman on her own can raise a child, I do not believe a man on his...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am being very relevant.

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am talking about amendment No. 12 and why it matters, if that is of any help. When the Minister disputes my assertion that I am concerned for women's rights as part of this equation, his basis for saying so is that I disagree with abortion. However, I actually disagree with abortion partly because it hurts many women and, of course, many unborn children are killed. That is the Minister's...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am coming to the end of my point. I am not here to go on longer than I have to but I will answer in full each charge that has been made. It is the Minister who dishonours women’s rights when, in the legislation, he refuses to acknowledge that a child should never be deprived of a mother. That is exactly what happens here. In surrogacy, children are deprived of their birth mother...

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Certainly, the Minister should think again about enabling any kind of surrogacy arrangement, whether involving a transgender person or otherwise, that would intentionally foresee depriving a child of ever having a mother in his or her life. That is wrong.

Seanad: Health (Assisted Human Reproduction) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (20 Jun 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I listened to every word that Senator Seery Kearney said. I always find her sincere and impressive. I think she is wrong on a number of things she said. She was allowed to speak, quite rightly, without any interruption from the Chair. I insist on the same treatment for myself and for Senator Keogan as well. During my equally long intervention, when I tried to address all the points that...

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