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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (19 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Could we add that issue as it relates to students in the next session because we spoke about it as it relates to staff?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (19 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Deputy Clarke can ask supplementary questions now if she would like. I will come down in person for my own supplementary questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (19 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I have an odd angle on it, so I will allow Senator Warfield to go first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (19 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: The presentations were really interesting and covered interesting subjects. I am torn about what to speak on because I would like to ask about so many things. I wanted to pick up on the intersectional issue. I was glad to see it named. There are gender equality issues and also layered issues. We talked about the changing of the secondary curriculum, its decolonisation, gender-proofing...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I move amendment No. 1: In page 8, line 15, after “State” to insert “and placed for adoption outside the State”. In the context of amendments Nos. 1 and 2, the concern is that, as currently constructed in the Bill, the definition of "adopted person" under the section seems to only include persons whose adoptions were facilitated by the Adoption Board, a...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I thank the Minister. I am glad. I recognise the change on Report Stage in the Dáil that relates to amendments Nos. 1 and 2. In light of that, I am going to consider the legislation again to determine whether I feel it satisfies what I am seeking to achieve in amendments Nos. 1 and 2. I believe it may. In that context, I will not press the amendments but reserve the right to...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I accept the Minister's point on "relevant person", so I will not press amendments Nos. 3 and 4. However, I am not satisfied that, in the section on relevant persons, the concept of incorrect birth registration covers fully the concept of an illegal birth registration. I believe they are slightly different. I do not believe "incorrect" is a frame that can incorporate "illegal". "Illegal"...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I move amendment No. 2: In page 8, line 15, after "State" to insert "and placed for adoption outside the State and whose adoption was effected outside the State".

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I move amendment No. 3: In page 8, between lines 20 and 21, to insert the following: "(c) a person who was otherwise illegally adopted,".

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I move amendment No. 4: In page 8, between lines 20 and 21, to insert the following: "(c) a person who was subject to an illegal birth registration,".

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I move amendment No. 5: In page 9, between lines 24 and 25, to insert the following: "(d) records of any vaccine trials in which the relevant person was a research subject,". These amendments are on the care arrangements and other issues and relate to the kinds of information persons are accessing. I am seeking granular health detail. I am aware that there are provisions in respect...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I agree with the Minister on the question of the vaccines in terms of the placing. The early life section or the medical section would be better than the care arrangements section. Again, we are adapting to the Bill as it changes. That is a better section, but I note that what I am seeking in terms of vaccines is slightly different. It is not simply a record of a person being vaccinated,...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: No, we could not get the names of other persons, but we could certainly have information in respect of the records of a vaccine trial. For example, if particular drugs or vaccines were bring trialled or developed. It is one thing to state in a record that a person was vaccinated and another thing to say a person was part of a vaccine trial and to outline the stage of development of the...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: In terms of the record, again the danger might be that it is a record of vaccination, but we can come back to vaccination trials on Report Stage. There is something different in terms of the records of vaccine trials versus the records of routine vaccinations. That might need elaboration, but I am not going to press the amendment. Because it is such an interlocking Bill, there are...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I move amendment No. 7: In page 9, between lines 24 and 25, to insert the following: “(d) any institution, agency, organisation or individual involved in the care of children and mothers who were separated from each other,”.

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I move amendment No. 8: In page 9, between lines 36 and 37, to insert the following: “(b) records about the person, including correspondence and other records associated with the administrative process surrounding the relevant person’s care.”. This is a consequential amendment. It follows from the committee’s pre-legislative scrutiny report, which...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I am rummaging through my papers. I want to be very clear about what I am speaking to.

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Amendment No. 8 relates to "records about the person, including correspondence and other records associated with the administrative process surrounding the relevant person’s care". It proposes to extend some of the provisions relating to what information might be provided, including in the administrative process. That would include information on the correspondence between somebody...

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: To clarify, there is a lot of information in relation to adoption under the early life definition. There is that kind of granular detail but there is slightly less information on care arrangements. One of the reasons it is relevant is that some of the care arrangements, including some of the boarded-out arrangements and others, included situations which were exploitative of child labour....

Seanad: Birth Information and Tracing Bill 2022: Committee Stage (18 May 2022)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Maybe I will table an amendment on Report Stage to ensure that "records" is construed as including correspondence. I think that might be useful in that regard. I withdraw and reserve the right to reintroduce.

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