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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I have one question on the 48 self-excluded people who were contacted. How many self-excluded in 2021 and in 2020? What is the number of people who self-excluded?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Yes, I do. That is what I want to know.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Is it easy to check? Is it something Ms Boate can come back with after the break?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That would be good. Thank you.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Can Ms Boate get back to the Chair by the end of the meeting? Is that something somebody could check?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I am sorry that I was not here when Ms Boate was clarifying the number. Will she clarify it for me?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: The regulator has it on a quarterly basis so it can just get those four reports, add them up and send them to me. Is that it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Right. Can I ask about the 45 as a proportion who had been contacted. Is that a figure that caused significant concern to the regulator? Is it 45 out of 50? Is it 45 out of 500? Ms Boate must have some sense of the scale.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Ms Boate will come back to the committee with that figure.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I agree.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That is literally the point I was making earlier. The failure when there was a breach was significant and important. The regulator noted it but applied no sanction and that is what concerns me.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Then I learn that no sanction has been applied in any case beyond the noting in an annual report which, forgive me, is just not that scary.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Ms Boate said there was a method by which the regulator could withhold funds. That is a sanction.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: It is important for us to understand the relationship between the regulator and the operator. When Ms Boate comes back, will she give us a sense of the number of times there has been a breach? She has spoken about the establishment of her office five years ago, so perhaps she can tell us how many times there has been a breach in the past five years. Ms Boate says she has considered the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I will return to the whole shall-may thing. I am sorry to go back to it. It really is a difficult one for us and I will say why. Even looking at the children's referendum and the language around that, the words "shall" and "may" are constantly in debate on legislation. Perhaps as legislators we are overindexing, so to speak, on this point but it really speaks to us. Returning to the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: That is fine. No problem. What proportion of that is the kind of advertising I am speaking about, which is the type that radio or newspapers might depend on?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: Fair enough. I do not expect Ms Boate to have that. I am interested in the indexing, from a media organisation's perspective, and what proportion. That is something for us to consider and part of our investigation is asking Ms Boate. Ms Boate says she does not have the exact numbers because it is not in her authority. Returning again to persuasive authority, it appears to me there is a...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I thank Ms Boate. If there is content from our engagement at this forum, which I appreciate is a very different sort of forum where we are coming to the issue from many different angles, can that be followed up in next year's compliance?

Written Answers — Department of Defence: Defence Forces (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: 47. To ask the Taoiseach and Minister for Defence the steps that his Department is taking to promote Ireland's highly qualified defence forces personnel staying in the Defence Forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [57958/22]

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: School Funding (24 Nov 2022)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: 82. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills further to Parliamentary Question No. 562 of 8 November 2022, if a circular will be sent to schools with information on additional capitation funding and additional grants that could be used to cover day-to-day operating costs and energy costs in lieu of voluntary contributions; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [57799/22]

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