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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2017
Chapter 22 - Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It was the previous Friday. Why does somebody not discontinue the case or go to somebody to mediate and say, "Let us do a deal here"? These people are not looking for compensation or money, to the best of my knowledge. I have read the statement of claim for one of them. I was not aware of the others. Nobody I am aware of is looking to make money here. They are looking for the same thing...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2017
Chapter 22 - Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Am I out of time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2017
Chapter 22 - Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I agree, but this is not new. None of us, the Chairman included, is bound to support or repeat the mistakes of the past, but it is reasonable that we would learn from them. I cannot imagine the Minister, Deputy Donohoe, saying to the Secretary General that he notes he has a proposal here for a committee of inspection, that he is sorry he is not agreeing to it and that the legislation was...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2017
Chapter 22 - Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: A committee of inspection for a company with a turnover of €100,000-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2017
Chapter 22 - Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It is not. I appreciate it might be a Government decision, but can Mr. Moran go back to the Department and sort these two cases?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2017
Chapter 22 - Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Okay. I hope the two applicants are watching today and saying, "Let us sort these cases and give us the scrutiny that we want". Unfortunately, the glorified kind of PowerPoint presentation that comes out as the periodic report is not the kind of oversight that I am talking about. I do not think I have anything else to raise. I thank Mr. Moran.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 7 - Office of the Minister for Finance
Chapter 1 - Exchequer Financial Outturn for 2017
Chapter 22 - Irish Fiscal Advisory Council
(30 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It is the same as ours.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I support Deputy Connolly on that point.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I have no difficulty with what the Chairman said at the last meeting because I joined him, as many did at that meeting, in agreeing with it. At the end of the day, we cannot have the contestants judging the beauty pageant. There is effective admission here that the same few personnel were involved. However, what worries me even more is that the Secretary General does not see a conflict of...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I must have missed the good point but it must be worth repeating if Mr. Breslin-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: The Chairman will give me some latitude because of that.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I thank the Chairman. I welcome the witnesses. I will articulate my usual opening clause. Sometimes I can be abrupt because I only have ten minutes. It is nothing personal. I refer to earlier questioning of Mr. Barry. Is it correct that he is a non-executive director of PM Group?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is the PM Group doing any work at all relevant to the hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Has it any current or former professional relationship with BAM?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is that on the private consultancy side?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Does Mr. Barry have knowledge of the nine cases that BAM is taking against arms of the State relevant to other projects?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Given Mr. Barry's experience of the NRA and his substantial international experience, if a company has form in litigating after the fact, does that come into consideration at tendering stage or assessment?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. Barry said that he had been involved in a few disputes and, of course, these can happen in the building of any project, no matter how small or big.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It is totally without prejudice but common sense demands that one would take a view.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Marc MacSharry: They are. Is it correct that one of the clauses refers to "most economically advantageous"?

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