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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Who said-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I think I require a doctor at this point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am not a member of the committee. Would the Chairman rather that I wait to ask a question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I asked Mr. O'Callaghan several questions. I asked him if he was involved in the appointment of board members and he answered that query. I asked him if the CEO was involved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I asked if he specifically was involved and he said he was. I understand he does not want to go into it because there is an appeal in process but he has confirmed that he was involved in the selection procedure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I asked if the CEO was involved in that procedure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It is recorded in the minutes that the Minister for Education and Skills did not give permission for the refurbishment of the premises. Deputy Thomas Byrne, who raised this issue, has left the meeting but I want it clarified that permission was not given. The Department of Education and Skills did not give permission for the refurbishment of the premises. That is recorded in the minutes....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I again put it to the witness that a report on the Towards Healing website states that the cut-off point has changed to 40 from January 2016. The witness is not aware of that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I thank the witness for clarifying that. I also asked about a waiting list. The organisation in March 2014 was described as a shambles. We are now in 2017 by the witnesses' own admission, there is an eight-month waiting list. Survivors say the list is longer but I will use the witnesses' figure of eight months. The length of the waiting list has not been addressed, notwithstanding that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: How can Mr. O'Callaghan stand over that delay of eight months? Did the Minister give permission for all the contracts signed up to by Caranua? Again, I am addressing all of these questions to Mr. O'Callaghan. The breach of legislation was very serious. It was not just in regard to suppliers, it was in respect of the information received from the redress board. That information was...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. O'Callaghan has been re-appointed as chairman of Caranua. I would appreciate if the Chairman allowed me finish. We have heard from the CEO and Mr. O'Callaghan that Caranua is survivor-centred and so on. I do not see evidence of that. I am here to ask questions and I am, therefore, asking questions. If nothing was learned from a breach of legislation and the witnesses are not even...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am not saying that. I beg the Chairman's pardon. I am extremely-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I will tell the Chairman exactly where it was recorded. It was recorded in the minutes. The majority of the board apologised for the breach of legislation. The Minister was very concerned by the breach of legislation, as were the survivors, but the board was not aware of it until it was brought to its attention, notwithstanding that legal advice had been given on it. Mr. O'Callaghan has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I want the figure for the full amount that is left. Where do the decisions the chairman referred to about a cut-off date figure in the minutes? The only minutes I have not seen are those of the last March meeting. I would like an answer those questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am sorry. The board accepted it, not me. The board apologised for the breach of legislation brought to its attention.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: There were subsequent breaches but the Chairman does not want me to go into those.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I did not say anything at all because the Chairman interrupted me. I realise that I am extra to the committee, so to speak. It was the clarification-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am finished. I am sorry; it was the decisions. When the chairman sends out a letter, he knows well that it has to be clear, according to the legislation. It has to be a decision, so the survivor can appeal that decision. Is he aware at this precise time how many survivors have received letters that are not clear and therefore they cannot appeal? Some were sorted out by the appeals...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: The waiting list.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Engagement with Caranua (30 May 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It is about the waiting list.

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