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Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: And the expenses for-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I am answering the Deputy's question. We have amended the 2016 statement and we will amend the 2020 statement shortly. I am not aware of the need to make a revision to any other donations form apart from the corporate one, which will happen shortly, and we are refunding back a share of that, which l acknowledge should not have been received, which was the commercial use of a van.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I have made clear on a number of occasions-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I have made clear that these were expenses that were accrued by Fine Gael Dublin Central, and the only-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: The Deputy is asking-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: The Deputy is asking me a question and I am going to answer it. My understanding, having assessed this matter thoroughly, is the main donation here that needs to be reviewed is from a corporate perspective, which has now happened, or, excuse me, which will happen.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I am not aware of this concept of a donation in kind. What I am referring to here is an expense.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: My expenses form has been submitted and-----

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: -----I have made clear on a number of occasions that these are expenses that were accrued by Fine Gael Dublin Central.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: No.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: As I have said, the two election campaigns for which I am revising my election expenses are for 2016 and 2020. If any further change needs to be made at this point, it would be.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: Again, the donations referred to by the Deputy are the cost of labour and the use of a van. They were all attributed to Fine Gael Dublin Central, not to me.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: Yes, I believe I did indicate that was the case.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: No. That would have been to the Fine Gael national organisation.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: It would have been a donation, as I have said, to the national party.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: We are talking about different things here. One went to Fine Gael Dublin Central. The other was to the Fine Gael nationally.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: I am aware what the aggregate is, but I am sure the Deputy is correct. They went to different party entities. As I have said from the very beginning, one was the sale of the tickets and the other was the commercial value we are attributing to postering and the use of a van.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: My understanding here is that the value of the money referred to by the Deputy is below the personal threshold. As I have said, and I will go back to the point I made, one was for Fine Gael Dublin Central and the other was for tickets that went to Fine Gael nationally.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: The €430 figure the Deputy referred to is the commercial use of a corporate van.

Statement by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (24 Jan 2023)

Paschal Donohoe: The Deputy is adding together two personal figures and a corporate figure. They are different. The two personal figures relate to the sale of tickets that I brought forward myself, and the commercial value of postering, which Mr. Stone paid for. The other figure the Deputy refers to is for a corporate donation that came from the Designer Group, that corporate donation being the commercial...

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