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Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I hope it will be but it must, of course, undergo the proper scrutiny in both Houses.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I have made notes on all the issues raised by Deputies today, as have my two officials. Between us, we have detailed notes on the proposed Report Stage amendments. In so far as we can deal with those in the meantime, we will do so. The officials already have a job of work to do in preparing for Report Stage but we certainly will give consideration to the issues raised by the Deputies.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I have asked the Whip's office to give us time for the debate but I do not know which week it is likely to be. I am seeking time as early as we can get it while also allowing Deputies and my officials and me sufficient time to prepare for it. I have not indicated a specific date, just that I will need time. Apart from the amendments Deputies indicated they intend to bring forward on...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I agree with Deputy O'Brien on this. It goes back to the principle of academic freedom. There are concerns for the presidents of the colleges with regard to the ability to express an opinion. It is undermining their academic freedom. I will also be tabling an amendment in this regard.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: This provision is standard and mainly applies to the president's function in respect of accounts and so on.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I am not sure the Deputy's interpretation is fully correct.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: The subsection states "in the performance of his or her duties under this paragraph". It is related to this particular paragraph and is not a general statement. Subsection (3) of Schedule 2 provides that "the president may make proposals to the technological university on any matter relating to its functions." The Deputy is specifically addressing a particular paragraph that deals with...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: Again, this is in the context of financial accounting. We see it in the Committee of Public Accounts when, for example, we have Secretaries General who, when acting as accounting officer in that context, do not talk about the policies but specifically about the financial and accounting element. I think the Deputy is forming a more general interpretation than the actual wording of the...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: We are discussing subsection (9) of the Schedule here. Subsection (9)(1) states: "The president shall, whenever required in writing to do so by the Committee of Dáil Éireann established under the Standing Orders of Dáil Éireann to examine and report to Dáil Éireann on the appropriation accounts and reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General ... give evidence...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 30:In page 73, line 12, to delete “make rules” and substitute “make, amend or revoke rules”. As well as providing for the governance of technological universities, the Bill provides for a number of related reforms in the governance of the Dublin Institute of Technology and other institutes of technology, including the reform of the composition...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 31:In page 73, between lines 14 and 15, to insert the following:“(2) Any standing orders for the regulation of its procedure and business or regulations for the conduct of the affairs of the Institute, made under the Second Schedule to the Dublin Institute of Technology Act 1992 and in being immediately before the coming into operation of subsection (1), shall...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 32:In page 87, line 6, to delete “make rules” and substitute “make, amend or revoke rules”.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 33:In page 87, between lines 8 and 9, to insert the following:“(2) Any standing orders for the regulation of its procedure and business or regulations for the conduct of the affairs of the college, made under the Second Schedule to the Act of 1992 and in being immediately before the coming into operation of subsection (1)shall continue in being after that coming...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 34:In page 93, line 24, to delete “make rules” and substitute “make, amend or revoke rules”.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 25:In page 57, line 20, to delete “A pensionable” and substitute the following:“Subject to section 48 of the Public Service Pensions (Single Scheme and Other Provisions) Act 2012, a pensionable”. Section 48 of the Public Service Pensions (Single Scheme and Other Provisions) Act 2012 provides that the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: Yes, exactly.

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 27:In page 61, between lines 14 and 15, to insert the following: “Arrangements for suspension or dismissal of staff following order under Part 387. (1) Notwithstanding section 6(3), where an order has been made under section 46, and a process that may result in the suspension or dismissal of a member of staff of the dissolved body has, before the appointed day,...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 28:In page 61, between lines 14 and 15, to insert the following:“Arrangements for academic council following order under Part 3 88. (1) Any recommendation made before the day appointed by order under section 46 or 53 under section 11(3)(d) or (j) of the Dublin Institute of Technology Act 1992 or section 10(3)(c) or (g) of the Act of 1992, by the academic council...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: I move amendment No. 29:In page 61, between lines 14 and 15, to insert the following:“Arrangements for certain procedures where order under Part 3 89. (1) Notwithstanding section 6(3), where an order has been made under section 46 and any process for—(a) the selection, admission, retention or exclusion of students of, (b) the conduct of examinations or the evaluation of...

Committee on Education and Social Protection: Select Sub-Committee on Education and Skills: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Committee Stage (14 Jan 2016)

Jan O'Sullivan: That is a complicated question. My understanding is that it does not, but I will have to clarify that for Deputy O'Brien. The purpose of the section is to transfer the various existing arrangements and procedures. It is the same procedure as was used when the vocational education committees were dissolved and became the education and training boards.

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