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Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Tá Chris Andrews, Ivana Bacik, Cathal Berry, John Brady, Martin Browne, Pat Buckley, Seán Canney, Sorca Clarke, Michael Collins, Rose Conway-Walsh, Réada Cronin, Pa Daly, Paul Donnelly, Dessie Ellis, Mairead Farrell, Michael Fitzmaurice, Gary Gannon, Thomas Gould, Johnny Guirke, Michael Healy-Rae, Brendan Howlin, Alan Kelly, Claire Kerrane, Pádraig Mac Lochlainn, Denise...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Amendment declared lost.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: The Tánaiste is not correct in saying that if my amendment were accepted, it would debar the association of the representative bodies with ICTU. What I am proposing is the deletion of a swath of the restrictions he has included and the substitution of "by the deletion of subsection (3) [of the principal Act]". My concern is only that it is overly prescriptive if management, that is,...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I am listening to the Tánaiste but believe it is important, for the sake of the dignity and respect we can show to members of the Defence Forces, that those members be entitled to representation regardless of the posts they hold. The Tánaiste mentioned the Chief of Staff. I am sure this could be dealt with in the terms and conditions. Does the Tánaiste accept that, in a...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: We are affirming the right to representation; there is no going back on that. What we are talking about is an advance on the position that obtained prior to the introduction of this legislation. The purpose of this legislation is to put on a statutory basis defence representative associations’ right of association with ICTU. I anticipate that will advance even further in years to...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: It is quite clear. The great advance the Tánaiste has included in the Bill is as follows: (3A) The Minister may, notwithstanding subsection (3), authorise in writing an association to be associated with a trade union or any other body outside of the Defence Forces [this is the catch.] in such cases and in such manner and subject to such conditions or restrictions as he or she may...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Catherine Connolly: That completes the debate on this amendment. Deputy Howlin got in because he was the proposer.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: Could the Tánaiste just respond to that?

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Catherine Connolly: I am in a little difficulty because Deputy Berry wanted to contribute also. By agreement-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I would just like to hear the answer.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Catherine Connolly: If we are in agreement, I will allow a quick comment from Deputy Berry. I should really finish with Deputy Howlin but, by way of exception, the Tánaiste will get the last word.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: In the initial draft of the Bill, the Tánaiste sought to place a prohibition on certain members of the Defence Forces being members of representative associations. We have talked about this. It was as if the Tánaiste was looking to expand the list. His argument for this was that those involved in the disciplinary process within the military need to be able to be impartial. There...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Cathal Berry: I speak in support of amendment No. 10 , which was tabled by the Member on my left, and amendment No. 11, tabled by the Member on my right. I agree with Deputy Howlin that the provisions in the Bill are overly proscriptive, are probably unnecessary and are draconian. It is already implied that these things actually exist, and I do not see why it has to be explicitly stated in primary...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Micheál Martin: As it stands, section 24 provides the statutory basis for the Minister for Defence to authorise the Permanent Defence Force representative associations to associate with ICTU. This is very positive and represents a significant step forward. I am already on record as clarifying that the amendments proposed by the Deputies would remove the mechanism by which associate membership of ICTU would...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Cathal Berry: I move amendment No. 8: In page 15, to delete lines 23 to 26.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Amendment put and declared lost.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I move amendment No. 9: In page 25, line 27, to delete “other than the Secretary General,”.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Amendment put and declared lost.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Catherine Connolly: Amendments Nos. 10 to 12, inclusive, are related and may be discussed together. Amendments Nos. 11 and 12 are physical alternatives to amendment No. 10.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Howlin: I move amendment No. 10: In page 27, to delete lines 10 to 38, and in page 28, to delete lines 1 and 2 and substitute the following: “(ii) by the deletion of subsection (3).”. These amendments deal with the prohibition by the Minister of certain actions by the recognised associations. Prima facie, they appear very draconian in the context of the restrictions...

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