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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Who is checking the Garda certificate?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: So it is HIQA or Tusla.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is it checked on an annual basis for staff?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: However, Ms Duggan's agency is working with vulnerable young children.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I know Tusla is trying to deal with it. I am mindful of the fact it is dealing with huge demand, but would it be fair to say that the number of audits for basic information such that the staff are Garda vetted needs to be increased-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: -----and is it the intention of Tusla to do that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Ms Duggan mentioned a figure between €400,000 and €750,000, which is a huge sum. I want to ask the assistant secretary about what the Ombudsman for Children decreed on the special emergency care arrangements. Is Mr. Ó Conaill aware of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: To the special emergency arrangements. The Ombudsman for Children, as I understand it, had something to say about this in the not-to-distant past. Is Mr. Ó Conaill aware of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: In relation to the use of them generally.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Do the international protection ones make up one third?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Two thirds of the children are in international protection. They are the unaccompanied minors who are arriving.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I will ask Ms Murphy about the different types of accommodation. Hotels and bed and breakfast accommodation have to be used at times. How does that work where there must be 24-hour staff? I am trying to work out the practicalities of that. How does that happen? If a person is running a bed and breakfast accommodation, a small hotel or whatever and Tusla has a child or a minor who...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Do they stay in the hotel or bed and breakfast accommodation as well?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Tusla would have to book three rooms.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: It is the practicalities of that I had question around. I call Deputy McAuliffe. The Deputy had to pop out on other important business.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy should preface what he is saying with the word "allegedly".

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I can bring the Deputy back in if he has another couple of questions. I will revert to capacity and accommodation with regard to the nine houses the we have gone through some of the shortcomings and risks with the private sector. In terms of the nine homes Tusla has purchased, what is potential the capacity of those?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is that one child per house?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Approximately ten care staff will be tied up between shift rotation and weekend hours. It takes approximately ten staff sometimes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: When will Tusla be able to fully utilise the capacity?

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