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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: We will take a short break and resume in ten minutes sharp.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: From all countries?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: To read between the lines, the committee can take it that 19-, 20- and 21-year-olds have turned up.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I thank Ms Duggan. On the residential care companies and different entities, am I correct in saying Tusla is funding around 640 entities in total? I am referring to residential care companies and section 56 organisations.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: So that is just community and voluntary.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I am trying to separate it out. The section 56 organisations are the community and voluntary organisations.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Are the private residential companies included in that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: How many private care companies are being used?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What kinds of numbers have we? What is the range?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: There are approximately 36 in total.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What proportion of Tusla's budget will be used up in those 36?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: How many places did we have for that? This was for 2022.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Would Tusla be looking at more than €400,000 per year per child?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Up to €750,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Because some of them have to be in single. They are astronomical sums. A lot start-up companies are getting involved in this. Are they all checked at the beginning to see whether they are tax-compliant?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: With regard to the Garda vetting of staff, if I want to be involved with my local under-18 soccer team, I have to have Garda vetting. Even if I have Garda vetting for my job, I need to have Garda vetting. If I am involved with the scouts, I still need to go and get a third set of it, which, I think, is crazy. I am in favour of Garda vetting but I fail to understand, and I have a...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: It received significant sums over a three-year period. Why was the absence of Garda vetting not seen earlier?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: They would be fairly compliant.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is it an expectation or assurance? Ms Duggan mentioned assurances earlier on.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Who is checking the Garda certificate?

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