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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: On the 14 national allowances, would I be correct in saying the Secretary General found all 14 to be still relevant and recommended their continuation for new entrants?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 25: Environment, Community and Local Government - Review of Allowances
(31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: In relation to the next instalment of this process, the business case has been forwarded to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We have had an exchange with the Irish Congress of Trade Unions. What is the next stage of the process?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Can we have this minuted?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Scare tactics.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: In all fairness, we are straying from the subject. Are we going to discuss Sinn Féin’s tax policy too?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: I believe it is 1.8%.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Local authorities might be the area in which ICTU has the most knowledge. How many people in that lower income bracket would be affected by a reduction or abolition of allowances? What would these workers earn typically?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Does that mean the allowances are all overtime?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: I presume the union negotiated that position in the context of the discussions that took place that resulted in the Croke Park agreement. Was that the established position all along?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Is it frustrating for all of the witnesses to see erroneous comment or deliberately misleading comment that fuses the issue of overtime with premium rates and allowances?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: I will conclude on that as I am conscious of the time I have had on this.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Does Mr. Cody have information that he can share with the committee on how many of the allowances are pensionable and how many are not pensionable?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: For allowances that are pensionable, is the pension contribution separate?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: What is the order in terms of percentages?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: They would also have taken the 14% hit on the allowance until recently.

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Would it also be true to say that in some cases the allowance pushed people into a higher tax bracket?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: This means they would pay more tax as a result of the allowance. In regard to the genesis of the allowance system, when did it begin and in which specific area?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: Were any allowances introduced as a result of industrial unrest - that is, strikes - or were any introduced to avoid strikes?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: How many of the allowances could be considered to be part of core pay? I know there are areas in which a justifiable case is made for their being part of core pay. Roughly what percentage of allowances are classed as core pay and what percentage do not fall into this category?

Public Accounts Committee: Irish Congress of Trade Unions - Review of Allowances (31 Oct 2012)

Michael McCarthy: On the specific issue of teacher unions, I seek the views of Ms Nunan, who represents the INTO. Obviously there will be an issue when a young teacher begins teaching in primary school alongside a teacher who has ten or 15 years' experience, as there will be a disparity in terms of earnings-based allowances. Is that fair?

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