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Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: We expect there will be some savings in areas such as the national training fund. The funds needed by way of the Supplementary Estimate, the €43.5 million, according to the best estimate of the Department at this time.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Yes.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Students attending the seven universities, 11 institutes of technology, the Technological University of Dublin, St. Angela's College, Sligo, Mary Immaculate College, Limerick, the National College of Art and Design, the Royal Irish Academy of Music, the Dublin Institute of Advanced Studies, the Royal Irish Academy, the Dublin Dental Hospital, the National College of Ireland, University of...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: The Department's rationale was that it would apply to students of colleges funded by the State through the Higher Education Authority.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: It is a fair point but, equally, many of those students will be in receipt of different training allowances or other allowances when they are undertaking PLC courses.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: If they get SUSI, yes.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Once they are in receipt of SUSI, they will get the €250 regardless of where they are studying. Someone who is attending college in the North or elsewhere who is not in receipt of SUSI, will not.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Again, that is down to each college. If the committee approves today's Vote and the Supplementary Estimate passes, the Department will place the funds with the Higher Education Authority which is working in the background in preparation for all this with each of the colleges mentioned. Each institution will decide locally how it will approach issues such as those raised by the Deputy, where...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: I expect it will be in the first quarter of the new year. We are running into Christmas now. Once this Vote is approved, SUSI will administer its side and the colleges will receive the instruction and the funds from the Higher Education Authority.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Yes.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Of €43.5 million, €24.4 million will go to subhead B.4, the general grants to universities, institutes of technology and other designated institutes of higher education, namely those I listed some moments ago; €600,000 is allocated to subhead B.9 which is grants for certain third-level institutions; and B.11 which is the SUSI subhead of €18.5 million.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Earlier in the year, the student assistance fund was slightly more than doubled to €20 million, which is a significant sum. There is also provision within SUSI for a change of circumstance. All members, as practising public representatives, will be aware of that. In a welcome move a number of months ago, the Minister, Deputy Harris, announced a review of SUSI rates for next year. I...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: It is expected that about 170,000 students will benefit from this and approximately 70,000 of those are in receipt of a SUSI grant.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: The Minister, Deputy Harris, and I have both referred to the matter. It has been referred to at this committee. This is either our third or fourth appearance at this committee. In the Dáil and Seanad we have had statements on further and higher education, during which the matter articulated by the Deputy has been raised by other speakers. It is the elephant in the room. The Cassells...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: We understand it is due early next year. It will be a big conversation for everybody and a big decision for Government.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: On mental health supports, as part of the July Covid funding there was a complete package of €168 million. It was broken down into various component parts, including €20 million for student assistance funding and a scheme to purchase 17,000 laptops. I do not have the exact amount for mental health supports but I think it was €3.4 million to fund additional mental health...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: I thank the Deputy. If I understand the circumstances she has outlined correctly, this student is a fourth-year student who has paid all of his fees in their entirety and is not in receipt of a SUSI grant. In that instance, the student will get a cash refund of €250 from his college. It is relatively straightforward. By giving students who are not in receipt of a SUSI grant a...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: Yes.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: To answer the Deputy's second question first, I am probably constrained in providing an opinion as it would only be my own personal opinion. I do not want to do a disservice to the process that will arrive at the ultimate decision. Suffice it to say that the Minister, Deputy Harris, has said on the record a number of times that this is the elephant in the room. The issue has been knocking...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2020
Vote 45 - Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science (Supplementary)
(8 Dec 2020)

Niall Collins: We can get the Deputy a note on that.

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