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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: My question was whether anyone had ever been disciplined in respect of that matter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Okay. There was another incident in which a person was paid €141 per month to allow use of his personal Sky account in the mess. The report said that no invoices were made available when the review was carried out. Why did the mess committee bank account not make the payment directly to Sky?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Has it ceased?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Has that money been refunded?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: With regard to that Sky account and the moneys involved, was anyone ever disciplined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: So nobody was disciplined as such.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Nobody was actually disciplined. The approach taken was that of a slap on the hand.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: I am not asking Ms McCaffrey to go into the details. I am just asking whether anyone was disciplined. I am not asking her to identify anybody. Was anybody ever disciplined for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Okay. There was nobody disciplined for it. It was also identified that the purchase of beer, cider and rum to a value of €945 was in breach of the Civil Service code. Again, was there anyone disciplined for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Okay. It was also suggest that there was more than €3,500 spent by one prison in 24 months in local pubs, which was from the prisoners assistance fund.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: That was some administrative error. Was it not another administrative error?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but for €3,500.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes. That was by one prison in 24 months in local pubs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but how would that-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: -----money come out? Setting aside administrative errors, how would somebody in Ms McCaffrey's employment actually think that funding could come out of a prisoners assistance fund? How would that benefit prisoners? How would that mistake be made? Where was the oversight?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Where was Ms McPhillips's oversight?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but I am talking about the prisoners assistance fund.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: I have a couple of questions. A detective garda inspector recently commented that the divisional protective services units are under-resourced. He also said that was an issue throughout the State. Does the Department accept that analysis?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(28 Apr 2022)

Imelda Munster: Okay, so you would not like to comment on it either way.

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