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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Let me. I have read it, as have all of the Deputies present. The report was published in 2008. Unfortunately, Mr. McGee has his name on it. It was commissioned by the financial director above him. It went to Mr. Fachtna Murphy, who was the then Commissioner, and returned with a recommendation from him that it be implemented. A comment is made somewhere to the effect that it would be a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is the Garda conducting an inquiry into that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: His audit relates to the financial aspects. Is that not right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: As information is uncovered. In respect of previous Commissioners, though, I am asking Ms O'Sullivan as the current Commissioner why action was not taken when such a blunt analysis of the situation in 2008 clearly told the Garda that this was not right. We are not talking about 2016 or 2017.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Does Ms O'Sullivan think it was wrong that the analysis was not followed up on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: That is good. It was wrong, it was not followed up on, but the Commissioner has no idea why it was not.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: In terms of trust, when did the Commissioner become aware of the following? She has said that she became aware, in July, of the difficulties in the Garda College.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Am I wrong in thinking that somewhere, in all of this documentation here, the legal adviser approached the Commissioner in June?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: When was that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am incorrect. The Commissioner can check that fact. She has clearly answered July in response to repeated questions. If I say the legal adviser told her in June or put her on notice, am I wrong?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, no document. Did the legal adviser talk to the Commissioner in June alerting her of the situation in the Garda College?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: My question is not did she get a document. My question is as follows. Did the legal adviser alert her verbally or in any way, in June, to the situation in the Garda College?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Was that during the famous meeting of 27 July?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I think the Commissioner has told the committee that it was a very short meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Barrett said, no, it was a very long meeting. On top of a very long day, it was two hours of a meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: We are not going back there, Commissioner, but we will stay with this for a minute. Mr. Barrett has said that the meeting lasted for approximately two hours. Does the Commissioner accept that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I understand. Mr. Barrett took the trouble to write an account after the event. His notes are not contemporaneous. He noted the meeting and stated that it lasted at least two hours.

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