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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: So when the HSE and the Department of Health come in here and say they could not move ahead on health records because the then Department of Public Expenditure and Reform vetoed the business case on the basis that they could not prove it works because of the children's hospital, that is not the case. Mr. Dormer is saying it is the Department of Health that decided those were the parameters...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Do I have that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I thank Mr. Dormer. It might have been useful in 2018 for the Department of Health to point out to people that in reality digital health records would not be in place for at least ten years.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Is Mr. Tierney saying the Department does not have the money to do digital health records?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: That might be a matter for the health committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: We might stay in the arena of transparency and accountancy policy. It is super helpful when we have a member of the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform present. I raised the issue of virements with the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage on the last occasion when we had a member of the then Department of Public Expenditure and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: But the Department effectively sidestepped the relevant Oireachtas committee that provides budgetary oversight to the Department, the amount being to the tune of nearly €600 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Because it did not lay it before the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Could I ask the Comptroller and Auditor General to give his opinion?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: The understanding is not the issue; it is the process by which the Department progressed with that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Why did Mr. Watt assume that? Was he informed of it by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: How did Mr. Watt reach that understanding? I am just trying to make it clear.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: So the Department of Health officials had a meeting with those in the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, and the latter said-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: On the issue of the virements, a meeting was had and Mr. Watt said, "Work away."

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Why did the Department of Health choose to use virements rather than a Supplementary Estimate?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I will bring in representatives from the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform in a second but I now want to bring in the Comptroller and Auditor General. With regard to oversight and scrutiny, is he happy with the level of virement usage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: What do we mean by "significantly"?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Why are we setting aside the public financial procedure in that way?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: But why was there an understanding? The process of Supplementary Estimates is not particularly onerous, so why did we do it this way? Why did we set aside the public financial procedures that are in place? I know that the country was under pressure in that era, but that is when procedures and formal oversight are important. That is why we have formal oversight, for those moments of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Is the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform going to put in place working guidelines for when virements are not acceptable?