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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Calculation of Methane Emissions: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Does Professor Allen agree that it can be done the way it is being done in America by new technologies, as Dr. Mitloehner referred to? Is that possible?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Calculation of Methane Emissions: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I rest my case.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Calculation of Methane Emissions: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I rest my case.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I thank the witnesses for coming in. I have some brief questions. From listening to previous speakers, if there were 100 million cattle in the world in 1930 and if there are also 100 million cattle in the world today, have the same number of cattle today contributed more than they did in 1930? Will the witnesses explain that? Is there more methane in the air or are the cattle different?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It is 3% per decade.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: When I asked a previous speaker what would happen if the world decided to reduce by 20% all the methane emitted from all the cattle on the planet, he said it would bring world temperatures down by only hundredths of 1°C. Do the witnesses agree with that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I am sorry for interrupting Professor Thorne but what is the length of time involved?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I am asking one simple question. The witnesses do not agree with the academics who were here previously who stated that if we reduced methane by 20% worldwide, the outcome would only amount to hundredths of 1°C. Are the witnesses saying that is incorrect?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It would be 0.1°C.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I was very interested listening to Professor Thorne. He spoke about the IPCC and the Paris Agreement and all these different things. He also spoke about gas and how detrimental that is in the line of methane and problems in that regard. Is Professor Thorne surprised that natural gas has become green in the EU, even though a cow seems to have become black?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I thank the Chair. That is all I have to say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: We had three professors before the committee during an earlier session who spoke about methane and the different types of methane - methane from gases and methane from cattle. One third of the methane produced in the world comes from cattle. To put it simply, they gave figures to show that if we got rid of every animal in the world, that would only change the temperature by one third of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I am sorry for interrupting Mr. Kierans. The future of Irish farming is at stake in the next week or two and he says it is slow for these people to do X, Y and Z. Someone could lose their livelihood because someone in some other country is slow or the people who collate the figures or make the decisions and are dressed up in suits are slow and it does not matter to them. Is that the way we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Hold on, they are default figures. Let us be clear on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: We have default figures. It is now recognised and can no longer be questioned that we had default figures and that the new figures are totally different. In the meantime, we are going to set targets that will be detrimental, one way or the other, for the family farms around this country. It is like building a house. You either put in a proper foundation and it stays up or you put in a bad...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Mr. Kierans may have listened to the contributions of the representatives of the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine. Does he accept that for the next three or four years, we will have to wait on new technologies? We heard from Dr. Mitloehner this morning. In California, a new additive given to dairy cows has reduced methane emissions by 30%. It has been approved by the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It was not voted for by both Houses of the Oireachtas. It was voted for by some Members of the Houses of the Oireachtas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Mr. Kierans does not think we may have more options when we see the proof of the different technologies being looked at. Is he not hopeful about those?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sectoral Emissions Ceilings: Discussion (20 Jul 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Mr. Kierans referred-----

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