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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Or DIRT payments. The Department often picks up bank accounts through information on DIRT from Revenue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is important to do an information campaign on that so people will know their Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection information will be linked in to their Revenue information. It is good, it is the right way and it is the up-to-date way to operate. People will think that because I raised it I am the reason for it happening but Revenue was doing it anyway.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Come and go. Some people will get a shock when they realise some of the social welfare payments might be taxable. They might not have had to pay tax on them before but they will be surprised to see this.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Where do the likes of the community employment schemes and Tús workers come in? That is income and there could be other income in such a household.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Cody might send us a note on which ones were exempt.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know Mr. Cody is going to tell me I should know because we approved it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We can only follow so much from this side but it would be useful to give information on it because people will be surprised when they find out about this.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: What is the VAT rate on food supplements?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is what is in the Finance Bill. Perhaps Ms Walshe from the Department of Finance can help.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does the Department have an information note it could send us, pending the passage of the Bill?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: In a practical sense, what was the VAT rate in 2018 on food supplements or is this new VAT rate just coming into place from 1 January next year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know but let us wrap it up now.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can the Department of Finance send us a note on that? I know we are at the end of the road on that matter, it has been running a while and we are all familiar with it. I have covered all the ground the members did not cover earlier. I thank everybody from the Revenue Commissioners, the Department of Finance and the Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht, who were here earlier,...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are joined by the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. Seamus McCarthy, as a permanent witness to the committee and he is joined by Ms Maureen Mulligan, senior auditor. No apologies have been received for today's meeting. We need to agree minutes for previous meetings. We met on Tuesday, 5 November regarding greenhouse gas and financial transactions with witnesses from the Economic...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have received the geographical breakdown, but not the breakdown of whether the claims are from staff members or members of the public.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will certainly do that. That is noted and published. We will follow that up. No. 2546 is on the school transport scheme. It contains two sentences which I find almost mutually contradictory. It is from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General, Department of Education and Skills, dated 8 November responding to our request on whether Bus Éireann's auditors are satisfied...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Comptroller and Auditor General has been all over this and produced a special report. I ask him to explain how the Department is claiming there is not a surplus and that it is just cost recovery, yet Bus Éireann repaid an uncommitted reserve to the Department. It is either one or the other.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is that because it has handed it back?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: This is like discussing the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin. It has excess money and is saying it is a surplus, but because it handed it back, it was never a profit. Is that what it is saying?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does anyone understand that? This is pedantic in the extreme.

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