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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Uptake of Apprenticeships and Traineeships: Discussion (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: It is good to see that some more women are getting involved. The committee was concerned by the statistics from last year showing that only 2% of apprenticeships were taken up by women. We certainly hope this positive change will continue. I thank Deputy Catherine Martin for standing in for me while I was on other Dáil business. I appreciate it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Uptake of Apprenticeships and Traineeships: Discussion (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I have a few questions to ask. I apologise that I did not get to hear all of the presentations, but I will have an opportunity to look back at the transcript. I also had the opportunity to read the submissions made prior to the meeting. I will have the opportunity to look back at the transcript, and I read the submissions prior to the meeting. The witnesses mentioned that the 1967...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Uptake of Apprenticeships and Traineeships: Discussion (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: The committee is always open to receiving further information. Mr. O'Flaherty referred to the apprenticeship skills event in March, which is a super idea. The committee would like to visit it and I ask Mr. O'Flaherty to let us know, if possible. The committee was very impressed by the apprentices who represented Ireland at WorldSkills. I could not agree more on the importance of retail...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: The purpose of this part of the meeting is to engage with officials from the Department of Education and Skills in respect of the operation of Caranua, the State agency under the aegis of the Department which is responsible for the administration of the residential institutions statutory fund. On behalf of the committee I welcome Mr. Ned Costello, assistant secretary general, Ms Catherine...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Mr. Costello. I call Senator Ruane.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: On a point of order, the Senator may not ask public servants to answer for the Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: The Senator also may not use the term "unlawful".

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I will add a comment myself before I have to suspend for voting. I am sorry about that. While I accept that there will be a post hocreview on redress schemes in general, I agree with my colleagues here that there should be an independent investigation into the operation and management of Caranua. That should be commissioned and carried out by the Department. I would be interested to know...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I apologise for having to suspend the meeting but, as Dáil members, we were under an obligation to vote. All of the members had an opportunity to put their questions to the Department officials and I propose that we start with Mr. Costello.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: As the challenge is not concluded I will not allow any further comment on the matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: If anybody wants clarification on what Mr. Costello or Ms Hynes said, I will be happy to allow it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: That is hearsay and we cannot comment on somebody who is not here to defend themselves. I am going to disallow that particular question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: It is something we need to delve into a bit more.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I ask the Senator to put his questions through the Chair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: As I reminded the Senator before we started, he cannot make comments like that about an organisation that is not here to defend itself.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: The Senator cannot.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: We have had a very interactive session. While not all members will be happy with some of the responses, there is a great deal of food for thought in what has been said. This does not end here for any of us. There is an onus and duty on all members of the committee to think about what has been submitted in writing or stated to us. As a committee, we will consider how we want to progress...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Mr. Costello. The consultation is absolutely vital and we appreciate that. We ask that consultation is as full and whole as possible and that it involves all individuals who contacted Caranua, not just a cohort with whom it is easy to engage. Everyone should be consulted. That concludes this part of the agenda. I propose that the committee defers consideration of the private...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: A number of members have indicated difficulties.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Operation of Caranua: Department of Education and Skills (15 Nov 2018)

Fiona O'Loughlin: It will be, absolutely. Is the proposal to defer matters to next Tuesday agreed? Agreed.

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