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Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Alright.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I want to go back to the minutes that are privileged. Has Mr. McEnery any difficulty in publishing those minutes subject to what he is saying is incorrect? Has he any difficulty in waiving his privilege in relation to those minutes? He was there.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: From all of the questions that have been asked so far I understand that the witness had one difficulty just.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: There is more than one difficulty.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Okay. I accept that. It does not accurately reflect Mr. McEnery's participation, would that be correct?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Listen. That has already been discussed.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Does Mr. McEnery have a difficulty in publishing the minutes or a difficulty in waiving his privilege on them?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. McEnery might reflect on that.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: This is my difficulty. Mr. McEnery is the chairman of HIQA. I do not want to put him in a spot when it comes to privilege but this is something that he must reflect on. It is possible that he does not have a role in it because he is an invited guest. He is, however, the head of HIQA and he attended a meeting. According to him the subsequent minutes are inaccurate. The criteria for his...

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Did Mr. McEnery hear my question?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good. Will he answer my question?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Looking back at that meeting and given how the minutes were written and privilege managed and so on, does Mr. McEnery think, on reflection, that it was an appropriate role for him as chair of HIQA?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Other members here have already brought up the issue of the minutes. I have asked Mr. McEnery what difficulties he had with the minutes and those difficulties were limited to specific words that were or were not said. Would it have been wrong had he been down as an attendee at that meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Did Mr. McEnery listen to my question? Would it have been incorrect had he been down as an attendee?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. McEnery was a guest; he was an attendee; he does not know. My final question concerns Mr. McEnery's role as chairman of HIQA. This position involves a leadership role, does it not?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: The role requires Mr. McEnery to manage key relationships with the Minister for Health; to judge and evaluate the performance of the CEO; and to manage relationships with key external parties. Who are these parties?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is the National Treatment Purchase Fund, NTPF, one of those external parties?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Is the NTPF one of those external parties?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Tusla will be four years old in January. Would the witnesses say it is past the crisis stage? Is it functioning 100% now to protect children?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Let me go to page 19 of the submission, to which colleagues have already referred. It states that there are limited resources available to the agency and it is not possible for it provide complete assurance overall. Mr. McBride has gone some way to addressing that by talking about a compliance unit which is obviously greatly understaffed. What assurance can he give?

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