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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Cullinane.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Barry saying the 7% is year by year based on the cost landing on the invoice when paid?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The 4% is not for the life of the project.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Per annum. If for two years of the project, inflation runs at 7%, we pay the balance. If in three years, inflation is 2%, we will save nothing.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Barry needs to explain this.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: So we are caught for 3% on what-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: If the inflation runs cumulatively at 7%, at 30% over and the contract only covers-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We could end up paying 17% or 18% in the last year.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Ms Hardiman should submit the information Deputy Murphy requested to the committee secretariat.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: To clarify, there are 119 clinical examination rooms?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: What was the total of inpatient beds?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Those are separate from the 119 outpatient rooms.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Are any of those inpatient beds designated for private use?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does that mean there will be no payment from any of the private health insurers in respect of those rooms if none of them is designated as private?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does Mr. Breslin get my question?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Do existing hospitals get some payments from the VHI?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I just want to know about money. Will money be paid in respect of those rooms by private health insurers?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I just wanted to clarify that point about private health insurance.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy should let him finish.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Barry obviously has a view but he is not going to share it. Does he have a view on it privately that he will not share? He has made it clear he will not share it.

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