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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: No, just aware of an issue. Do not worry about the exact figures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: When?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: What were you aware of at the time?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Not the figure, just an issue in terms of the cost of it and the waste.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Would have been aware, surely.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Does the person whom Ms Hurley spoke to still work in RTÉ?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: The very first question that was asked today was when did people become aware of this. We now know there is someone in RTÉ who was aware of this before the 11 witnesses and that person is not in this room. Why? Why not bring that person in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: RTÉ knew what the first question would be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: But they were aware of it and they have said that they were aware of it at the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: And 11 people come in here and say that they knew nothing about it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: It just seems for any organisation-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: I agree.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: We found a good staff member.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Yes. One would think that member would be promoted into a senior role so as to come in here and we could speak to him or her.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: That is my point because there has been deflection for a number of years by people who came in here, although not necessarily everyone in this room. It is incredible to think that there are people who work in RTÉ who were aware of it and whom we cannot actually speak to yet the whole leadership had not a clue what was going on. It seems amazing that Mr. Lynch did not know anything.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Ms Cusack is head of HR.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: When did Ms Cusack become aware there was an issue, not financially, but just with the system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: With whom did Ms Cusack raise that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: In the steering committee, when Ms Cusack raised those concerns or issues, did anyone from the finance side, or anyone else from the leadership team, ask whether there was a financial issue with this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Policy, Governance, Expenditure and Administration at RTÉ: Discussion (28 May 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Even if RTÉ is desperate to get something, it still has a responsibility when it comes to taxpayers' money. The money generated by 22,500 people who pay licence fees has been wasted on this.

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