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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: We will discuss that at our private meeting on Monday next.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: I have a few questions on the land legacy loans that the Minister has provided €100 million for. In my time on Cork City Council, that was a big issue for us. Cork City Council had built up substantial debts. They had purchased properties before the financial crash. For years, they were only paying interest on these land debts and then they had to pay capital. The issue here is if...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: Does the Minister have a figure for the total legacy debt on the land that local authorities are holding?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: The Minister has €100 million put forward this year. Is that something that will be rolled out over the next two or three years to remove that legacy debt?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: When I was on Cork City Council, it was paying, let us say, on €100,000, what started off at €7,000 and rose over the years because it was originally interest-only repayment and then the local authority had to pay capital. It could have been the bones of €1 million. Other local authorities must be in the same position. It goes back to a point Deputy Cian O'Callaghan...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: Yes.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: The problem with that is the Government brought in the local property tax and then slashed the block grants. In fact, local authorities were worse off with the local property tax. For example, one area I represent is Kerry Pike. It is a lovely little village in Cork North-Central. It is five minutes from Apple Computers. The village doubled in size with development and until recently, it...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: The problem with the new vacant homes tax is that it is only equivalent to 0.3% because it is tied to the local property tax, which is not enough to act as a deterrent.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: There were 419 applications for Croí Cónaithe towns and only 66 were delivered. There was huge fanfare when the scheme was announced. I got the number of units delivered in a response to a parliamentary question I tabled this week.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: Only 66 homes delivered.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: With only 66 homes the scheme might as well not exist.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: I referred to the Croí Cónaithe towns.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: The information was supplied in a response to my parliamentary question.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: I support the Minister on the latter.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: Yes.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: My party will definitely support the Minister's plans for using CPOs.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: I was expecting more time.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: I will lash out a few questions. We are discussing social housing income limits. In recent years, people have been taken off lists for being over the limit. So that they might keep their times, will there be an exemption for people who went over the limit in the past year or two but who are now under the limit? I know of a person who was on a list for ten and a half years. He was to be...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage (Supplementary)
(24 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: Will the Minister consider the direct build aspect, please?

Social Welfare Bill 2022: Second Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2022)

Thomas Gould: If Deputy Durkan wishes, he can come over to this side of the House after that contribution.

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