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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does a group have to be a registered charity for a set period before it can avail of tax relief?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will make a note of that. Representatives of Revenue will be here next week or the following week. We will specifically ask them about that. The Charities Regulator does not deal with that side of things. I gather that most schools are registered in order to avail of tax relief. Do they need charitable status to avail of tax relief on an extension or new facilities in the school for...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Churches are also included.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am just asking so that people will know because I did not know that some of these local voluntary groups could register as charities, although sporting organisations are specifically excluded.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It may have already been said but why were those 579 bodies removed from the register?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Why does that happen?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Why would a group lose its tax status? We will ask the Revenue but Ms Martin must also know.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is because the group is no longer active. We will ask Revenue whether there is a sunset clause involved when it comes before the committee next week. We will make a note of that. The first of the organisations with which the Charities Regulator has a lot of interaction that Ms Martin mentioned was Revenue. The regulator has quite a lot of dealings with it because of the financial side...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Davy can invest in funds that do not include companies involved in those industries. I ask the witnesses to provide the committee with a note. If those areas are not already excluded, I ask the regulator to follow the example of the other leading State agencies that have already implemented policies on this matter. It does not have to be legal, in that it can be an investment choice. If...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It can be sent to us in writing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: The national childcare scheme.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We can put that to the Revenue Commissioners next week.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: The charitable exemption does not mean they necessarily get the tax exemption.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will raise that with the Revenue Commissioners when they are here in the next week or so.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have some brief questions on page 9 of the financial statement. The CRA spent a great deal on legal fees. Why was it so much? Given the size of the organisation, €213,000 is a lot.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Page 8 refers to consultancy costs. Consultancy costs include the cost of external advice to management and exclude outsourced business as usual functions. Can you differentiate between paying somebody on a consultancy basis and an outsourced function? What is the difference?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: How many whole-time equivalent posts are outsourced?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay. I was worried that it might be a large number. The CRA has consultancy costs of €388,000. The digital platform, which was mentioned earlier, is €218,000. Page 22 refers to consultancy costs of €333,000. The digital platform is a significant element of that cost. According to page 8, the authority capitalised €212,000 of it and only charged...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay. I see that the authority brought €298,902 into its capital account. I presume the €212,000 is part of that. I am looking at page 23.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: What else has been capitalised other than the expenditure on the digital platform?

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