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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: I thank the Senator.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Last week delegates were very clear on the difficulties they had in understanding the legislation. There is no primary legislation. Mr. Duggan referred to the main Act of 2005 and the consolidation Act since. There have been numerous amendments and Mr. Duggan spoke about the complexity of the legislation. He said that, as is usual with such administrative consolidations, it came with the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: There are still a number of issues to be addressed, to be fair to the committee colleagues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: There are other issues, to be fair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: I thank Deputy Brady and call Mr. Duggan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: I thank Senator Higgins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Deputy Joan Collins is back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Could Mr. Duggan address the issues raised by Deputy Joan Collins about access to services? She has not got her card.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: No. Mr. Duggan need not do that. We are coming close to a conclusion. We are near the voting bloc and there are one or two issues to be raised. I call Deputy O'Dea and ask him to be very brief.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Senator, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: They have to have the card.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Colleagues, we are coming close to the end and I am very conscious Mr. Lowry has not had an opportunity to speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Very briefly. The Deputy has spoken a number of times.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Does Mr. Duggan have that information with him?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Mr. Duggan might have a look at that and if there is information on it, he might forward it directly to the committee. I raised it in the Dáil so there should be somebody working on it. Mr. Lowry has been here for a while and I would like to give him an opportunity to comment on any of the issues that were raised.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: We must bring this to a conclusion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Senator, I am afraid-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: Very briefly. Senator Higgins has had several questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

John Curran: I thank Mr. Lowry. I am afraid we must conclude at this stage. Mr. Duggan might send a note to the committee on the specific issue Deputy Brady raised in terms of persons whose payments were suspended. I thank Ms Stack, Ms O'Donnell, Mr. Duggan, Mr. Cox and Mr. Lowry for their attendance today, for their submissions and for their interaction with the committee in trying to address the...

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