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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: Thank you.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: I am moving on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: The Deputy can see that I am under pressure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: The Deputy is out of time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: You said the final question, Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: We are moving on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: I am moving on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: I ask Deputy Shortall to stop. I am moving on because I am under massive pressure. A large number of speakers wish to contribute. This is a joint meeting of the Committee on Health and the Sub-Committee on Mental Health and there are other members, Teachtaí Dála and Seanadóirí, who want to speak. Given the pressure, I ask members to listen to the Chair as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: I call Deputy Hourigan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: Would Deputy Bríd Smith pass on the committee's deepest sympathy to Deputy Gino Kenny and the wider family?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: I was not aware of his mother's passing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: We will move on now to Senator Frances Black.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: Can Mr. Fitzgerald expand on how long it would normally take in a case like that? It is a reasonable question to ask.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: The Deputy may go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: We will go next to Deputy Danny Healy-Rae.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: To follow on from those questions, we heard about the challenges of getting expertise for these multidisciplinary teams. We know from previous submissions and witnesses that there are real challenges in rural areas and areas of high deprivation for many of these CAMHS teams. The big question that people at home are asking is whether we can be assured that the failures and challenges that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: That is important. One recommendation in the report is that the clinical director for CAMHS should make sure that all junior doctors meet the legal requirement to show they are competent. Why was it necessary to put this in the report? Was this not the case before? Why else would the report make such a recommendation? Did we have untrained doctors working in the service?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: South Kerry Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services: HSE (2 Mar 2022)

Seán Crowe: It has been suggested by some parents that one tired doctor should not excuse the mistreatment of 227 children, as was outlined clearly in the report. The HSE report states that this was due to lack of knowledge about the best way to do things. Again, the question that must be asked is how such a doctor, with this lack of knowledge, can be placed in the role. Is there not a requirement for...

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