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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: If anyone did declare to RTÉ that they were interested in that position, would they have got any information or feedback as to why they had not been considered?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Just to finish off on that piece, what we are saying is it is a list of roughly 20 names, and that list is drawn up by the head of content.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay, from where does it go? Does it go across the executive to make that ultimate decision? How is that decision made?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We as a committee have asked questions around Mr. Kielty's contract. We have been furnished with some details around that. Will the person, and I do not know who that is, the professional who directed the "The Late Late Show" previously continue in that role for the next phase of "The Late Late Show"?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We are saying that whoever directed "The Late Late Show" in the past, their services are no longer required. We are bringing in a new director, along with Patrick Kielty, to direct the new version of "The Late Late Show". Am I right?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Can I just move on, because I have such a short time? I hope Mr. Lynch can appreciate that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: That person will obviously incur new costs. Is that a contractual arrangement?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Were they happy to be leaving "The Late Late Show"?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay. Ms Doherty spoke about being on the corridors of RTÉ. Did she ever hear the comment that Noel Kelly was the real director general around RTÉ?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Which job does Ms Doherty mean?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Can I bring Ms Doherty back to the Noel Kelly piece? There is a certain perspective, rightly or wrongly, that in terms of Noel Kelly's influence on all of the entertainers and many of the presenters within RTÉ, he wielded too much influence, let us say.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Would Ms Doherty say that has been to the detriment of RTÉ in terms of what it has cost it?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I am going to go back to my question. Does Ms Doherty think that, in the case of our public service broadcaster, it has been to the detriment of RTÉ that one particular contractor has so many of the top presenters that RTÉ has-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I thank Ms Doherty. I have just one request, more than anything else, for Ms O'Leary, which is around Soho House. That is because that is new information we received late last night. Will Ms O'Leary furnish the committee with a full inventory of who would have been in Soho House and what meetings were held there since 2019 and since the contract was renewed? Is that okay?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: That brings an end to my line of questions. I thank the representatives very much for their co-operation today. I know it has been not just been a difficult day; it has been a difficult couple of weeks. I hope the witnesses feel they have been treated fairly and respectfully at all times. It has been my utmost priority to do that for everybody. I will now open the floor to a few...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I thank Deputy Griffin for taking my seat for a while. Deputy O'Connor has three minutes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I have to move on. I call Senator Murphy.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: One second. Deputy Cathal Crowe just came into the room and his name was on the list.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: No, one second. When Deputy Crowe has asked his three minutes - I have to consider the witnesses must be exhausted and we have gone way over the time-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Hang on two seconds. I ask Deputy Crowe to use his three minutes. I will then go around the room. I am mindful of the fact that there are members of this committee who have been here all day and every day and may have one final question or comment. I will not ask the witnesses to respond to every single one of them. After Deputy Crowe, we will go around the room and members may ask a...

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