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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is the cost of this €65 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I am new to this committee, but Deputy Catherine Murphy and I are on the Committee of Public Accounts. That answer frightens me in that Mr. Gallagher has heard figures. Does he know how much it will be?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: What are the facts?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Those are the kind of steps the Department will need to take. Are there estimates on the costs for that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: The Department will be at one with many other Departments. There are many moving feasts on the capital side at present.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Of course. Prudence demands that we know what the costs are for the Oireachtas to take an authoritative view.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I accept we are only at heads of Bill stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Which is good and I welcome that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: We will have costs. That is great. I am sorry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I refer to the driver for this. At the beginning, the Department produced its own report. In producing that report, was there substantial consultation with the industry, the airports, the IAA and everybody else or did the Department produce it independently?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is there broad support from all of the stakeholders?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: The Department is confident that it has that in hand. Was a business case completed for this proposal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: So, there was not a business case. I suppose that is the short answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Neither am I but I suppose it would be helpful; it is how we tend to approach things when it comes to expenditure-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: -----or the cost implications of things. There is not one. That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Yes but there are cost implications of policy implementation-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: -----in terms of the cost-benefit analysis. Is Europe forcing us to do this? My understanding of the last section 32 safety audit by Helios consultants recommended to keep the strong functional separation under review. It was not saying "do this". I am taking Mr. Gallagher at his word that this is a great idea or whatever but let us look at the cost implications. Are we going about it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is that a public document?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. Gallagher does not have to get it for me now. I can get it if it is available.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Air Navigation and Transport Bill 2019: Discussion (10 Jul 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Will there be any cross-subsidy between the air navigation body and the proposed new IAA?

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