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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: The Department of Justice and Equality, as an oversight body, has no record at all that anything was wrong. None of these reports was brought to the attention of Mr. Waters's predecessor. There is no record that the Department read it or saw it. It never even heard in the air that any of this was going on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: This is-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: The Department was still the paymaster however. It was giving more than €1 billion a year to An Garda Síochána. I know it has a Vote of its own. I understand all that, but the Department still had to hand over that money every year. Surely the Department had a role, and the Comptroller and Auditor General would have been responsible for checking up on that role. Did the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Is Mr. Waters shocked by what he has heard over the last four days of our evidence and by the carry on that was happening in Templemore?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Is he shocked in hindsight?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Are his two colleagues shocked? Are all the witnesses shocked that this was happening under their noses?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: So does the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: It has an oversight role.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: What about proper governance, leaving aside the financial dealings?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: The only excuse then is that it was the culture of the day. It was happening and if that was the way things were done, so be it. That is basically what Mr. Waters is saying.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Do either of Mr. Waters's colleagues have any comment on what I have asked?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: As the Department responsible, the Department of Justice and Equality will be more closely scrutinising everything that is happening within An Garda Síochána in future. Under the new arrangements, nothing like this will happen in the future.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: I will ask Mr. Waters one last question personally. Does he think someone should pay the price for what happened? I asked the Commissioner this earlier this evening. I am asking for his personal opinion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Does he accept that there was wrongdoing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: With regard to the Policing Authority, its new set-up and role and so on, does Ms Feehily feel the authority has enough powers? I know it is only starting out and has only been established for 12 months. Does Ms Feehily feel that the authority has enough powers to scrutinise what happened and that it will have a role in the future?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: I will ask a hypothetical question. If the Policing Authority had been around during the turmoil years, or whatever one would like to call them, does Ms Feehily think the authority would have spotted and stopped what went on in the situation at hand? I know it is a hypothetical question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: My last comment is that, with all the scrutinising that will be going on in An Garda Síochána from now on, we should have everything worked out right.

Written Answers — Department of Health: National Treatment Purchase Fund (20 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: 1313. To ask the Minister for Health when the National Treatment Purchase Fund will be fully accessible; the way in which it will be applied for; the criteria for persons to access the fund; the hospitals both public and private that will be participating in the scheme; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [27874/17]

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statements 2015 and 2016
Clarification of Matters Relating to Meeting of 2 February 2016
(15 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Have the terms of reference been breached?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statements 2015 and 2016
Clarification of Matters Relating to Meeting of 2 February 2016
(15 Jun 2017)

Bobby Aylward: On a point of order, can I ask why Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Purcell cannot answer any questions? While they are not witnesses, what were they brought in here for? Was it for us to sit and look across at them?

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