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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I was going to come to that. Exactly. We now have public funds that are not-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: So we should just be happy for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I missed that opportunity. I do not understand what is happening at all.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: That is a good point. I want to go to the other fund completely and return to the non-disclosure aspect of it. I know that the witness does not want to get into the legality of it and that is fine. Is that not a bit of a nonsense though, insofar as this will all be laid before the Dáil at some stage and if you were bookkeeping-minded, you could pull apart all of the numbers and surely...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: That is fine. I just wanted to be clear, not that I am minded to do it, but that we could pull apart all of the numbers and come to an estimation ourselves of what the disclosure was. I just think it is a nonsense. I would be interested to know from the Department whether the State Claims Agency is advising it to enter into those kind of non-disclosure agreements as a matter of course. Is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Just to be clear, I was not asking about numbers or the amount there. I am asking about the non-disclosure aspect of this, considering that these are accounts that will be laid before the House.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Does the Department always defer to the agency on these matters?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Dr. O'Reardon is not entirely sure if it gave advice around non-disclosure previously on other cases. Are there other cases such as this that it has advised that non-disclosure is fine but we are still dealing with public money?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I presume some of it would be medical. I apologise. Does the Comptroller and Auditor General want to come in?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I will not get it in my minute, but I wanted to come back to Mr. McCarthy’s chapter from 2020, particularly around the registrations and the cash-based nature of some of this. Again, I am not sure I quite understand all of it. I will ask the Central Bank another question before my time runs out. Is it reviewing the process by which this is all undertaken? Just to be clear, has Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Is that 2022 or 2023?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: It will be an accrual account in 2022. Is that better?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I want to raise a point of order. In the context of there being a wild west culture, we are not getting any answers here. I am not sure there is any point in continuing the meeting when there is no information on the table for us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 14: Assessment and Collection of Insurance Compensation Fund Levies
Report on Administration and Movement of the Insurance Compensation Fund for the year ended 31 December 2021
Comptroller and Auditor General Section 2 Report on Unauthorised release of funds from the Central Fund of the Exchequer
(23 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I second that.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: I reiterate the apology for the previous session. I am sorry I am not chairing today, but I have a meeting at 7 p.m. with the Ceann Comhairle. I want to start with chapter 9, which all the witnesses seem to have a slight objection to, which I think is interesting. We have talked a little bit already about chapter 9, but I do not think that kind of approach has solidified. It is...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: Do the witnesses think that is work that needs to be done to make everything run better, or is it just something that would be nice?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Report of the Commission on Taxation and Welfare: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2023)

Neasa Hourigan: We have heard, in previous sessions, that sometimes things go through and it turns out that they do not actually work or there has been a mistake.

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