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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: I will stop Mr. Redmond there. Forgive my lack of understanding but the net cost increases when we factor in people's contributions. I am trying to work out what is left when the amount the State gets is subtracted from the amount it costs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: Is €1.3 billion the overall cost, with the contributions from people amounting to some €400 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: What is the size of that cohort?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: That is the total in nursing home care at this time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: What is Mr. Duff's estimate for the number on the margins, wondering what is going to happen and how soon it will happen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: How much would that be?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: Mr. Duff said there was a base of 250 people plus another 50 or 70. Year on year, would 50 or 60 people be likely to come into the system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Nursing Homes Support Scheme (Amendment) Bill 2019: Discussion (13 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: I will not keep the delegates long. I am conscious that this has been a long session and that they have been here for longer than I have. On the question of vulnerability, we should not hesitate to acknowledge the fact that we will all become vulnerable as we grow older. People are in nursing homes precisely because they are vulnerable. That is why this is an important debate. Mr....

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: He is heading it off in advance.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: I wish to join in the tributes to Fr. Des Wilson. When one considers the amazing contribution made by so many clergy on all sides of the denominational divide to try to bring peace to Northern Ireland - one thinks of people like Harold Good, John Dunlop, the late Monsignor Denis Faul, Fr. Alec Reid and the Redemptorists in Clonard - a great debt of gratitude is owed to them. When speaking...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: I am not claiming to be any better than everybody else.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: We all need to be consistent, and I point that finger at myself as well.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: It is interesting how sensitive the Leader is, even when he is not being addressed himself on this issue.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: It makes me wonder what his private thoughts on some of these matters actually are.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: I want to pay tribute to the absolute common sense of Senator Marie-Louise O'Donnell, where she mentions the proposed reforestation of Ireland on a scale not seen since ancient times. This is something I raised, not yesterday but on the previous occasion, albeit not so much in respect of forestry. In the previous climate debate we had with the Minister, I spoke about very ambitious targets...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: If we do not talk honestly about distinctions or if we accuse those who make such distinctions of in some way seeking to subvert a policy of generosity and support for people from other lands who need to come to our shores in various different situations, then what we are really doing is serving our own selfish political ends by seeking to be more virtuous than the other in this debate.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: Part of what is going on here in our country is that in the absence of a perceived unifying source of moral authority, people are competing to be the most moral in the group. The danger of that is that we will not get to the solutions that we need.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: I have always said that we need to have a structured policy towards immigration. That includes reaching out, not just to those who can come to our shores who have particular skills who may not be asylum seekers and obviously have the first claim, but also to people who do not necessarily have skills that we are desperately clamouring for, as part of some programme of structured migration as...

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: Countries that have a colonial history have greater responsibilities but Ireland should be seen to lead the way in that regard. I absolutely support Senator McDowell when he calls to account those who have tackled the Taoiseach in recent days. He was doing no more than stating facts.

Seanad: An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (6 Nov 2019)

Rónán Mullen: If we cannot have facts discussed, we cannot solve problems.

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