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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When would it be, roughly?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: All right.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What is that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: They are not individual organisations.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It is the representative organisation for the co-ops on the islands, Connemara and throughout the Gaeltachts. They set out very clearly what is necessary and I would have thought this would be the first point of engagement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: The Chairman is being very polite with me as I am sure my time has finished. It is essential that the review should look back and learn but it must also look forward and change the modus operandi. There must be a focused team with full-time employees looking at this. This money must be given out and it is clear the Department cannot do it, with the best will in the world. The two or three...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Pobal has an administrative role but does it have a feedback role for the Department? Does it indicate what is needed on the ground?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: No, that is not my question. Is there feedback generally on what is needed in an area? For example, would it indicate gaps or what is missing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: No, it is not with regard to schemes. Does it identify gaps and needs in an area or function outside the limited scheme being administered? Is it simply-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I have one or two specific questions. I do not think that the Chairman meant it, but I do not think that the comment on Pobal - to get rid of it - is acceptable. It is doing considerable work on the ground. The questions are appropriate in terms of analysing what is happening but it is premature to make those kinds of comments.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: No, but Pobal was mentioned and it is struggling. The difficulties it has experienced should be part of the analysis. If it is helping applicants and filling in application forms, as my colleague mentioned, it demonstrates that there is something wrong with the complexity of the thing. Pobal is key to asking about problems on the ground. On Pobal, some of the moneys are administered...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: The witnesses would know that because they commented here that the Department administers it directly and then I think there was a figure of 29 in respect of the Dormant Accounts Fund. The Department must have a breakdown. Would Pobal do 50% of the work? Is it 30%?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I understand that and they have not been included. The Department bears its own costs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: My question is how that compares with what the Department is doing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It is an important question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, please provide us with the number and the value for each year. How many of the projects must struggle with matching funding? The area based childhood, ABC, project was mentioned earlier. In regard to the Department and Atlantic Philanthropies, I have difficulties with saying the word, perhaps it is an adverse reaction-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It is not a general feature.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It is only for specific projects on occasion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Maybe we could get clarification on that too because it is also very important. Specifically in regard to ABC, which subsequently became something else, I do not know why or what analysis was done. Later it became the QCBI, quality and capacity building initiative. Quality and capacity building is something that needs to be done to the Dormant Accounts Fund. What was the effect in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Dormant Accounts Fund
(8 Feb 2018)

Catherine Connolly: The ABC programme received no Dormant Accounts Fund funding

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