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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Is the chair satisfied with the deal?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: It was touched on earlier. When will that deal be made public? It is in the public interest for the future of "The Late Late Show" as an entity to know what that deal comprises of. When will it be made public? Mr. Lynch is the interim deputy director general.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I am sure RTÉ can have a conversation with the other party tomorrow. How soon can RTÉ make this committee and the public aware of what that deal comprises of? I heard Mr. Kielty's response yesterday. He is not here to answer, but it was far from satisfactory. I am asking the witnesses as the people who negotiated that deal, when will they make this committee aware, assuming that...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: How soon will it meet?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: All going well, there is no reason this committee cannot be fully informed about this as early as Friday evening or Monday morning at the latest. Is that a fair assumption?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We are agreeing to that, assuming that everyone goes along with it. If someone is not in agreement, I ask RTÉ to inform the committee of that. I find it extraordinary - perhaps there is more to go on this - that nobody from the executive present, and we have not had the opportunity to go through each of them, can answer the straightforward question of how many of RTÉ's talent...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: No. I am asking broadly in RTÉ. Surely someone knows how many of the stars are negotiated on behalf of by NKM.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Mr. Coveney is head of strategy. Surely he should know or have an idea about it. Surely it comes up at executive meetings. He is obviously a big player within RTÉ. Perhaps he cannot answer the question. If he cannot that is fine.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Does the CFO know?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: No, I want to go much broader than that. I call Ms Geraldine O'Leary.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: But we do not know. Mr. Lynch does not know either.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: In its entirety.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Yes. When can we be furnished with that detail? This is important. Mr. Kelly is a key player in all this and we have not got to this yet. How soon can the witnesses get us that information?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We will get to you. I will give you that chance at the end.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Turning to Ms Ní Raghallaigh, what level of delegation does the board give to the director general in relation to the negotiation and contracts for someone like Mr. Kielty, who is coming in? Was any level of reporting required by the board, for example, concerning this new and upcoming contract?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: What part does the board play? What kind of conversation takes place or how often does this happen?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I am going to be specific. Let us move forward and we are talking about the new presenter of "The Late Late Show".

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: What level of input would the board have had in respect of being aware of or sending the executive off to negotiate that deal and then to come back and report? As was said, they are coming back and this proposal is to be approved on Friday by Ms Ní Raghallaigh's board. What input does the board have in these kinds of situations? Does it give the executives any requirements, set...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay. In other words, the executives can do what they like and go as far as they like with negotiations or a deal, and then go back with the proposal to the board and it must either agree or disagree.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Your first experience of that will be on Friday, when this new deal is to come back to the board.

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