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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: The Deputy has gone over four minutes now; perhaps she would like to ask a couple of questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: Would the Deputy like to give the witnesses an opportunity to respond?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: We will have to have brief responses because the Deputy has used up her time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: The Deputy may seek a point of clarification, but her time is up.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: The Deputy is over his time. Is it a point of clarification?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: I wish to have clarification on a point touched on by Deputy Durkan relating to the position in Northern Ireland on abortion pills. Are the witnesses aware of any prosecutions there? This is information the committee will have to obtain and it has been raised already in this committee at other sessions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: That is what we have heard but we would like to know that this is accurate information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: We will try to seek that information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: Deputy Mattie McGrath had the floor and the witness is entitled to answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: I am conscious that you are speaking at the moment, Dr. Boylan, but by all means please indicate, Professor or Dr. Ní Bhuinneain, if either of you would like to comment further.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: There is time for one final point of clarification.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: Thank you, Deputy. Deputy O'Brien, you have six minutes altogether.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: It is just as well. Professor, you have a flight at 7 p.m. so I think we need to get you into a taxi.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Health, Including Physical Health, of Pregnant Women: Professor Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, Dr. Peter Boylan and Dr. Meabh Ní Bhuinneáin (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: I thank our three guests for attending. We very much appreciate the fact that Professor Arulkumaran travelled to be here because he is under time pressure. I also thank Dr. Boylan and Dr. Ní Bhuinneáin for their attendance. We really appreciate their thorough answering of the questions posed by members.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Options for Constitutional Change (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: We are now in public session. We have discussed in private session over the last while the the issue of how to best proceed. The committee has taken evidence in public session from constitutional law and human rights experts and will review the six options open to us in with regard to constitutional change. Our legal adviser has outlined in a paper to this committee these six options to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Options for Constitutional Change (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: We have discussed this already, but I see that Senator Mullen has indicated.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Options for Constitutional Change (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: Members are quite free to vote for or against any proposal of the committee, or indeed to abstain from the vote. Because all members are present there is no requirement to ring the bells for a vote. The question is:"That Article 40.3.3° should not be retained in full." Members who are in favour say "Tá"-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Options for Constitutional Change (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: The vote has been called.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Options for Constitutional Change (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: That was the subject of our discussion for the past hour in private session. Senator Buttimer wishes to raise a point of order.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Options for Constitutional Change (18 Oct 2017)

Catherine Noone: I will have to defer to the clerk on this matter.

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