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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Yes, the construction cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: The board has spent to date €1.325 billion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: That is fine. I am looking for a breakdown of that expenditure to date. How much of that has been paid to the contractor?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: What was the original construction cost?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: It was €910 million. How much of that has been paid to the developer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: The vast bulk of that original cost has, therefore, already been paid to the contractor. Is that what Mr. Gunning is saying?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Okay, so the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: The inflation figure was €55 million-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Okay. Mr. Gunning is saying there is a go-slow and there is still a huge amount of work to be done. The contract price was €910 million and the board has paid the contractor-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Mr. Gunning said €830 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Okay. That is an indication of the vast sum yet to be paid for the construction cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Clearly, the original figure was way off the mark.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: Did Mr. Gunning say that the original cost for construction that was to be paid to the builder-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: -----was €910 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: So, the €1.4 billion-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: I am looking for the different elements of that. There is the construction cost and then, if we add an additional €55 million for inflation, that brings us-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: That is fine but if BAM has been paid €838 million, the vast bulk of the original price has been paid.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Róisín Shortall: What percentage of the contract does Mr. Gunning estimate is outstanding?

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