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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: Was that for 12 different stables or were they samples taken from one or two stables?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: What was the number of stables involved? Out of the 140 stables that were tested, and more than 1,000 samples, were those 12 samples from one stable or from a number of different stables?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: Okay, but let us put it this way; in how many of the 140 stables that were tested was an adverse outcome found?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: I understand that but it is important that we need to have an idea of what we are talking about. Is it one stable, three or four stables, or 12 stables? This is what I am trying to find out, across the 140 that were tested.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: So we could be talking about seven or eight.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: In relation to the adverse outcomes in 2021, have all those cases been dealt with now?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: What is the time period from the time an adverse outcome is found to the time it is finally dealt with? We are two years on from 2021. Will we have those concluded by the end of this year or will it take longer again?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: All the preliminary findings of the 12 will be decided by the end of the year.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: How many of the preliminary findings of the 12 have been finalised at this stage?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: Why does it take that time period? He mentioned 2021.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: I thank all the officials here today. I will open with the Grant Thornton report. Paragraph 2.2(g) states that "The Director General was not involved in the drafting, signing or implementation of this agreement (being the Tri-partite)". It would be set out and I am asking for a list of everyone involved in the drafting of that agreement and everyone involved in that agreement. It is...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: Can we have the names of all the people involved in that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: Okay. You might send that on to us in writing.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: I move onto the issue concerning the €75,000. I address this question to Mr. Collins regarding the invoice. If someone is acting as a consultant, are they not obliged to charge VAT on the fees they levy?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: No, the standard invoice would have a VAT component. Am I correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: When the invoice was received in RTÉ's accounts department, how come further clarification was not looked for on this aspect?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: What is the scenario in relation to VAT in that case?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: Were you aware of the detail of the invoice, because these were described as "consultancy fees"? Surely any invoice would set that out. I have been involved in business for 30 years. Mr. Collins is a qualified financial adviser. Surely just having "consultancy fees" is not a sufficient description on an invoice? Would Mr. Collins accept this?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Colm Burke: Was there not a duty then on Mr. Collins's part to raise a query regarding what these consultancy fees were for?

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