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Estimates for Public Services 2017: Messages from Select Committees (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: The Select Committee on Foreign Affairs, Trade and Defence has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimate for public services for the service of the year ending 31 December 2017 - Vote 35. The Select Committee on Employment Affairs and Social Protection has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimate for public services for the service of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: In the absence on business of the Chairman, members must put up with me for the day. I welcome television viewers to the proceedings. We will try to get through as much business as possible although it will be difficult because there will be several votes in the Dáil during the course of the day. Members should try to keep their work within confines and do their best to avoid...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: I thank Professor Gevers. Does Professor Pajkrt wish to make her opening statement now?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: I thank Professor Pajkrt for her opening statement. We very much appreciate the witnesses being here and giving us of their time. To be helpful to everybody, and because our witnesses are not everyday English speakers, I ask members to speak slowly to accommodate their understanding. I will try to accommodate everybody in every way possible in terms of time. It might be best if we operate...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: I am sorry but a vote has been called in the House.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: I apologise for that. We were not aware that this might happen. In theory, we could continue with only half of the members participating but that could give rise to questions later on so in the circumstances, we will suspend the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: Who wishes to proceed first?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: The right to have a choice?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: There is another vote in the Dáil. It is an interruption over which we have no control whatever. Deputy Fitzpatrick is coming near the end of his contribution.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: The Deputy may do so but we are coming near the end.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: The Deputy may do so but we are coming near the end and he should keep that in mind.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: We are back in session. Deputy Fitzpatrick was in possession. Has he concluded his question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: We will take them one at a time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: Deputy Kelleher is next but he has not yet returned from voting in the Dáil. He told me not to be surprised if he was delayed. Therefore, I call Deputy Hildegarde Naughton.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: There are two members still to speak. I am watching the clock because our situation is becoming precarious in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: We have two more speakers, Deputies Anne Rabbitte and Lisa Chambers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: The reason she would have to go to court here is that there is a ban on abortion. The State has a ban on abortion except in certain circumstances. That is the origin of the Deputy's question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: Deputy Lisa Chambers is the very last, but someone had to be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: Since there is a vote coming up, and if no one objects, we will try to conclude proceedings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Obstetric Medicine in the Netherlands: Professor Sjef Gevers and Professor Eva Pajkrt, University of Amsterdam (23 Nov 2017)

Bernard Durkan: I thank our visiting witnesses, particularly for being so patient during the numerous interruptions. We are much indebted to them for their replies to the various questions that were asked.

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