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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: We have not actually covered the issue of drones yet. I was going to bring Mr. Hughes back in after Deputy O'Rourke to do so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Will Mr. Hughes go to the next slide, which is about drones?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Is there a flight level they do not go above? How high can they go? What would they normally see?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Would that be 1,000 ft or 10,000 ft?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: That is above 60,000 ft.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: They are above everybody.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It is interesting, and I will bring everybody in. I will come in with a couple of impressions. Is it the case that it may not be that far away that we can put a backpack on us with a drone or something, and take off and head into town?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: The technology is getting there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I do not see like-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Could we see hundreds of people-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. Hughes. He provided an opening statement and a number of briefing documents. There are more slides and the 96-page Single European Sky ATM Research, SESAR, document. I am not sure every member has fully read the latter yet, especially as we only received it in the past day or two. I am sure it makes for good background reading. I have a few questions. We hear phrases like...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: If you thought the sky was full or saturated already, it is going to be much more saturated.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I am thinking out loud. When people were doing up their houses 20 years ago, they were putting in Cat5 cable everywhere. Two years later wireless came along, and it was completely redundant after people had put wires in every room to ensure they had connectivity. This is not to take away from the wonderful MetroLink project that is close to the heart of Deputy Smith and others. Could it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: All of these underground tunnels will not be needed in the same way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Sorry, members. It is semi-farcical-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: -----but is it, though? That is the question. I am genuinely asking if it will be the case that people will be coming out of Leinster House or any other workplace and putting on their drone backpack? There could be hundreds or thousands of people heading out the N11 or the N7 to go home every day. Is that technically where we could be heading?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I presume a lot of it is battery driven, and there is lithium and the metals that go into it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It is thought provoking. It may happen at one stage, maybe not in our lifetimes, but who knows.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I think I remember seeing the repeats.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I am older than the two members. Would either of them like to come in? I may come back in later. It is almost so far out there it is hard to get our heads around.

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