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Seanad: Order of Business (20 Jan 2015)

John Gilroy: It is not a surprise.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: That happened on 15 January 2014.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: This farce is called democracy.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: That is what it is called - democracy.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: It is never about doing the right thing; it is all about being elected.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: Do we not have confidence in the ability of the Houses of the Oireachtas to raise appropriate questions?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: This is fabulous stuff, Senator O'Brien.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: I have read it. I spent at least 130 hours working on this legislation.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: It is an unfortunate, if completely unintentional, habit of mine.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: One of the Leas-Chathaoirleach's party colleagues accused me of waffling, which was amazing. We listened to some dreadful tosh last Friday when Senators stuck their heads in holes in the ground, although when I listen to some of the contributions made by Opposition Senators, I sometimes feel like sticking my head into a hole in the ground.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: I thank the Leas-Chathaoirleach for his guidance. If the Joint Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht, Committee of Public Accounts, Commission for Energy Regulation and the State's entire auditing mechanisms are not to be trusted, and both Houses of the Oireachtas are incapable of interrogating the finances of a semi-State body, there is something seriously wrong.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: The Senator should take his time.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: We hear the Senator.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: Senator O'Brien seems to be able to take any old concern at all, dress it up in respectable language and raise it as a hare. He took two words from the Minister of State's opening address, which contained about 500 or 600 words. Senator O'Brien took two words and dressed it up. It looks, at first glance, to be a good idea to have Irish Water subject to the provisions of the Comptroller and...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: This is the sort of argument we are having - that the finances of the ESB are dodgy. Are there people who are putting that on the record of the House?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: Are we saying that the CER is not capable of fulfilling its role? Are we expressing such lack of confidence in our own colleagues to be able to interrogate the finances of Irish Water under the Committee of Public Accounts and the joint Oireachtas committee?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: There is confusion because of the construction of the section. There is customer protection legislation in other areas such that if a customer uses a service, there is a particular route towards dispute resolution. There are many people who may not be customers, but the normal dispute resolution apparatus would work in that case. This is an addition, not a subtraction; it does not exclude...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: Senators are either misunderstanding this wilfully-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (22 Dec 2014)

John Gilroy: Section 1 indicates that this section relates to customers only. That is spelled out in Parts 1 and 4 and cannot be any clearer. It is an additional layer of customer protection.

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