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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Something went wrong there because they were coming in at over 80%. I would say that is far higher than most other people might have given the board in terms of performance. I know Mr. O’Rourke has experience of other boards in Enterprise Ireland, the ESB and so on. Is it a fruitless exercise? Is it pointless?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: An aithníonn tú an tábhacht a bhaineann le Raidió na Gaeltachta do shaol agus do chultúr na Gaeltachta agus an mbeidh béim aige ar Raidió na Gaeltachta amach anseo? Does Mr. O’Rourke acknowledge the importance of Raidió na Gaeltachta on the life and culture of the Gaeltacht and will there be an emphasis by him on Raidió na Gaeltachta into...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: I am sure Mr. O’Rourke will be welcome in west Kerry at any stage, if he would like to give a call on his exploratory visits. Go raibh maith agat.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Regarding HR, an awful lot of what happened last year and the scandals that arose were HR department and finance department-related scandals. In that regard, I wish to ask the chairman about the HR department. Does he believe, in light of everything we saw over the past 12 months related to severance packages and the Tubridy pay debacle, that the current leadership positions within the HR...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Have there been personnel changes in the HR department at senior level since last June? None. It is remarkable, considering that this was primarily an HR scandal and the same team is in place, is it not?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: We know from previous hearings here that key players within the HR department were complicit in many of the activities that occurred. From the board’s point of view, is it concerning that these changes have not taken place? We saw quite a serious change of personnel in certain areas, for example, in finance, but that has not happened in HR. In my opinion, there is something very...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: I think public confidence is critical. We talk about the massive haemorrhaging of revenue, for example, from the TV licence, that arose from a loss of public confidence, particularly in the day-to-day running of the organisation. That is something that I think will require key change of personnel at the station. I do not think that confidence will be fully recovered until the people who...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: I know that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: The board should be challenging more. Regarding the board challenging management, have there been, for example, any proposals from management in respect of pay-related or severance-related activity in the chair’s time that the board has refused? We know there were approvals in the past that certainly would have raised a lot of eyebrows. Have there been any proposals of late that the...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Was this very recently?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: These were pay increases or improved conditions.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Management is still requesting improved conditions for senior positions in RTÉ at this time.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Okay, but we are not seeing proposals come before the board for severance packages of €300,000 or €400,000 of late, are we? Is that still happening? There were audible gasps in here when Ms Cusack revealed she had signed off on a €450,000 exit package a number of months ago. Are those kinds of packages coming before the board all the time?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Have there been any in Mr. O'Rourke's time?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Wow, still of that size. That is-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Mr. O'Rourke is saying that in his time as chair, he has been the chair of a board that has approved an exit package in excess of €400,000.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: I think Mr. O'Rourke would remember the figure of something like that - I would remember it, anyway. Perhaps the head of HR could clarify that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Mr. O'Rourke is saying that-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: To Mr. O'Rourke's recollection, it was €400,000 or possibly north of that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Engagement with Chairperson to the Board of RTÉ (12 Jun 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Are we not back to where we started with these levels of-----

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