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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I do not remember agreeing that. I thought we had agreed to leave it over for further discussion.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Was that invitation in regard to this specific matter?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: On this issue, certain Deputies were interested in bringing in Nursing Homes Ireland generally. I had grave reservations about that because the organisation does not come under our remit. I had proposed that we invite the organisation to appear before the committee in regard to an aspect of the meeting, namely, the alleged meeting that was reported in the newspapers. As the Chairman stated...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I note the real powers are shaking their heads. When we invite organisations to appear before us it is generally on the basis of the Comptroller and Auditor General having audited the organisation, which means we have something to discuss. What will be the basis of our discussion with Nursing Homes Ireland?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I am not against the Chairman's proposal but I would like clarity on what will be discussed and what documentation it will be asked to provide. I am not happy to have Nursing Homes Ireland appear before the committee without clarity around what documentation it will be asked to provide and the basis on which it will appear, in addition to our questioning it about the alleged meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: In the script Ms McPhillips has, the paragraphs are very-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It is the second paragraph on page 6.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: "The restructuring".

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: How many are owned by the State?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Could Mr. Dowling repeat that? I did not hear him.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: The issue of information and communications technology, ICT, has been dealt with and I will not repeat the points that have been made. The management oversight committee, or whatever name is given to the board------

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Governance. When did that come into being?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It did not extend to that because it was concerned with bigger projects.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: That was internal.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: In this regard, the highest spend was on the Insolvency Service of Ireland, ISI.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Yes. It came to approximately €3,647,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: The agencies which incurred the highest spends, namely, the Insolvency Service of Ireland and the Charities Regulator, are in the process of getting new information technology, IT, systems.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: They have gone to tender or are in the process of so doing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It moved in January of this year.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Okay. In terms of the expenditure that is being accounted for here, the Comptroller and Auditor General has drawn our attention to a lack of governance and management but Ms McPhillips is saying that has been sorted out.

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