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Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agriculture Scheme Eligibility (19 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: 697. To ask the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine if a person (details supplied) will be deemed eligible under a scheme; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [22699/16]

Written Answers — Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Departmental Funding (19 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: 886. To ask the Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation if funding is being provided by any scheme by his Department or agencies under the aegis of his Department to assist developers to buy land to enable them to build houses in view of the housing crisis; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [22566/16]

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: We are in public session. Today's meeting is focused on two specific areas relating to the HSE Financial Statement 2015: (i) Internal financial control and the governance of grants to outside agencies under section 39 agreements; and (ii) an update on the payment of specified remuneration and allowances to senior managers, known as top-up payments, in the section 38 agencies and the...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I invite Mr. Tony O'Brien of the HSE to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: Is the witness happy for us to publish that opening statement?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: Thank you. As Chairman, I will set the context of today's meeting. As the witness mentioned, we have received an extensive internal audit report, running to 229 pages, conducted by the HSE. The HSE's internal audit function is the largest of any State organisation because of the size of the HSE, which has 100,000 employees. How many people are in it?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: I will get these few points on the public record. When did the HSE national audit committee receive this report, which was completed on 14 April, and discuss it? What was its views on the report?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: A national audit committee will receive the internal report carried out by the HSE into Console next Monday, and by then the entity will have been liquidated.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: Over three months have elapsed. Is that good practice? Is it the normal practice?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: Will the Department of Health officials comment on that later in the meeting? I find it unacceptable but I will not take up the time before the lead speakers come in. It is extraordinary that this is the governance structure, probably decided by the Department of Health. What lessons have the HSE learned as a result of the recent episode? I did not hear any of that in the opening...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: I will come back to it. We have received approximately 500 pages of documentation, including service level agreements, internal audit reports and opening statements but I have seen nothing about lessons learned. I will let other people ask those questions but I am just pointing out that we have not received anything about the lessons learned. What work went into the internal audit report?...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: It is just to put it on the record and it will help the questioners. What was the scale of the work?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: I will let people ask the witnesses about that. I just wanted to get an idea of how many weeks of work went into this. Was it 50 weeks or 100 weeks?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: We can get to that. I just want to ask about the headline figure. The role of the HSE is what we are most concerned about. I am just trying to get an idea of the level of work that went into this. Dr. Smith is saying it is substantial.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: It was months of work in man-hours.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: Others may tease out the detail. I find it extraordinary that there are 229 pages of very detailed information in the report, none of which I intend to go through today because we are more concerned about the HSE's control over the issue, rather than the specifics of the report. We have been told the biggest State organisation, with the largest internal audit section, the most staff and...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: For what period?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: Were they released or published?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: They are not published on the HSE website.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Financial Statement 2015 (15 Jul 2016)

Seán Fleming: Individuals might have requested them.

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