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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I have a difficulty with that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I have a difficulty with a private interest coming in. There is a responsibility on the Committee of Public Accounts to deal with State agencies as regards value for money and it is such organisations we should be questioning.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I share some of the sentiments expressed by Deputy Cullinane. I note that Mr. Daly offered to come in on a different day.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: My issue also relates to the Legal Aid Board. There is a particular onus on a body like that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: That is the first point. Second, the nature of the service it provides has changed dramatically in recent years. Clients of the Legal Aid Board pay for its services. It is not a free legal aid service. It is being commodified into sections. For example, if one is getting an hour's consultation, one must attend with the cash to pay for it. As such, there is a particular onus on the Legal...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: But Mr. McCarthy is familiar with the information. Has he seen it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It was just not included.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Lovely. There was a turnover of €38 million and the board incurred material expenditure. What was the figure?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What was the nature of those services?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Their foundations' hearts.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When will the periodic report be launched?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is that completed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Cuirim fáilte ar ais roimh na finnéithe go léir. Cuirim fáilte roimh an Uasal Leonard. Is bean í i measc na bhfear arís. I welcome the witnesses and the briefing documents given to us. I have looked at them as best I can. Perhaps a wiser person might stay quiet and listen more, but we have to ask questions. I have looked again at Mr. Watt's opening...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: A figure of €400 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is there a change in policy?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is the Department cautious because the economy is now better? What led to its caution?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: No. Will Mr. Watt just explain to me what has led to the Department's caution.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Therefore, the motivation to achieve value for money was not on the same level as finding a way to build in a difficult environment.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is that not the kernel of the matter, proving there is value for money?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What I have before me is the audit from the European Union. I have the one prepared by the budget office. Its theme is the difficulty in proving value for money on any level. What the audit states is that the brakes should be hit.

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