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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I ask Mr. Coveney to put it in another way. Does he think the staff who have been out very vocally and publicly saying they could not get crews to go here and there and that they were working with broken equipment and so on would agree with that comment?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: I totally appreciate that-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: -----but to say €2.2 million made no material difference to RTÉ-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: -----I have to categorically disagree with you on that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay. I have a final question for you, Mr. Coveney. My colleague, Deputy Christopher O'Sullivan, has alluded to it. Ryan Tubridy was not involved, but was he supportive of the idea.?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay. Thank you. I am now going to ask Mr. Lynch to talk us through the process. Ryan Tubridy has said his goodbyes and we are moving onto a new phase for "The Late Late Show". Will Mr. Lynch talk us through the process of deciding who the host should be?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Did they apply or how did that come about?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay. Who draws up that list?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: It is by the director of content. How many names were on that list?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Would those 20 people have been aware that there names were on the list as potential hosts of "The Late Late Show"?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Would entertainers and people in that business have been in a position to apply and demonstrate their interest in that position?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: If anyone did declare to RTÉ that they were interested in that position, would they have got any information or feedback as to why they had not been considered?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Just to finish off on that piece, what we are saying is it is a list of roughly 20 names, and that list is drawn up by the head of content.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay, from where does it go? Does it go across the executive to make that ultimate decision? How is that decision made?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We as a committee have asked questions around Mr. Kielty's contract. We have been furnished with some details around that. Will the person, and I do not know who that is, the professional who directed the "The Late Late Show" previously continue in that role for the next phase of "The Late Late Show"?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: We are saying that whoever directed "The Late Late Show" in the past, their services are no longer required. We are bringing in a new director, along with Patrick Kielty, to direct the new version of "The Late Late Show". Am I right?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Can I just move on, because I have such a short time? I hope Mr. Lynch can appreciate that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: That person will obviously incur new costs. Is that a contractual arrangement?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Were they happy to be leaving "The Late Late Show"?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Niamh Smyth: Okay. Ms Doherty spoke about being on the corridors of RTÉ. Did she ever hear the comment that Noel Kelly was the real director general around RTÉ?

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