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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is not because it is advertised as a contact number.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am looking at them. It says that one should call the landline number directly if one has a complicated query. The company has an out in the small print of the advertisement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Revenue is doing all the work and TryWeb is getting all of the money for the phone call.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Cody can understand why I am asking. It was highlighted. There is a real issue in this regard. People do not know about it until they get their phone bill or until they run out of credit halfway through a call.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay. I have aired that point. It is important because we are all talking about contacting Revenue and there is a scam going on in that regard. The poor person making the phone call is the one who pays for it. Paragraph 6.3, at the bottom of page 18, has a small but interesting point in regard to compensation and legal costs. Under the heading "Claims by members of the public", there have...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have made the point and it is one we all have to watch. I want to move to page 78 of the accounts, where I find one set of figures interesting, although we are not talking about billions. It is in regard to non-Exchequer receipts collected on the behalf of other Departments, agencies or EU member states. I found a few figures of interest. I have three questions. Revenue collected...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know it is legacy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Could this be from estates?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am talking specifically about the health levy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Cody might send us a note.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: And a note on why, eight years later, the money has not been collected.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Cody can send us a note. I have several questions in a similar vein. Under note 3, the local property tax, LPT, collection figure of €488 million is broken down. For example, there is €25 million for the household charge, which was €100 and which is from seven years ago, and the LPT arrears for 2012 to 2017. Why, six years later, are we collecting LPT that was not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is the €7,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. Mr. Cody can send us a note because we have touched on a couple of different issues. It is historic but it is interesting that it is still rolling through. A final question is on tobacco excise receipts of €167 million. Will Mr. Cody explain what that is for? I understand it goes directly to the Department of Health.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Revenue collects it and forwards it on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is €167,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is the same figure for both years. I ask Mr. Cody to send the committee a note on the origins of that figure. I raise these issues because the general position is that all moneys collected must go to the Exchequer, other than those which go to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am highlighting these because-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes, hypothecated tax. Some people claim it does not exist. That is an example of an existing hypothecated tax. That is the only point I am making. The chart which has been provided probably shows a hypothecated tax.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 17 - Tax compliance interventions
Chapter 18 - Tax relief on film production
(28 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I refer to the list of defaulters and so on which is published by Revenue. I will not go through the figures which were presented. Up to 55% is collected after two years. Some of the defaulters cannot afford to pay the debt but the Revenue still goes through the process. The committee has been provided with figures for what has been collected up to two years after the event. Are payment...

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