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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: I only have a certain amount of time and I want to ask other questions, so I would appreciate it if Ms Boate could keep her answers as brief as possible. Let us say that, next year, 99:1 is the split. Would that not concern Ms Boate? To anyone looking in, given the idea that, of the €122 million, 98% of it is gone on marketing, based on that licence agreement, the regulator, in my...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: That is why I asked.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: I am just asking for Mr. Nolan's opinion. Does he believe we should have one regulator or not? Is it being considered? I am short for time.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: Can Mr. Nolan find out and write back to the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: If Mr. Nolan does not have an opinion, that is fine, but what is his opinion, given his role in working with the regulator? Does he believe that would be a good idea?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: For the public outside, the difference between Departments is irrelevant.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: That can be looked at and incorporated as part of it. Perhaps we will ask, through Mr. Nolan, for the opinion to come through the Department in that regard, and also as to whether this was ever even considered. On the idea that it is covered by two different Departments, I am sorry, that does not wash; it is irrelevant. To move back to the regulator, I have several quick questions on...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: What is 16?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: Has Ms Boate seen that balance slightly changing all the time?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: As a regulator, is Ms Boate concerned, given where we as a Legislature are going, by this proliferation?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: I was expecting to see one. I was not expecting to see-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: Access has changed totally since then.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: It is just a different way of doing the same thing. I went on to a couple of gambling websites. You can start off at 0.5 cent. You have to start off here at €2 and can go up, if I am not wrong, to €15 per game.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: Sorry, €10 per game. That game will be over in a matter of a minute or less.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: They are highly addictive.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: I commend that. That is one thing I commend.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: Do all gambling websites not have that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: I think that is on most gambling sites as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: Ms Boate keeps saying, "So they say", and I agree with her but, if anything, what she has said enhances my point. It is nothing to do with the witnesses personally but this needs one overarching regulator. Otherwise, there will be inconsistencies in approach. From a legislative point of view, I cannot see how we can distinguish gambling products, given the access now, and have different...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: National Lottery Fund (24 Nov 2022)

Alan Kelly: This place bailed out the banks in 24 hours. We would be well able to manage that.

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