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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: You are saying that €2 million was not for Trinity at all. The commitment in some of the correspondence is that the Department would pay his salary.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: By whom?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: It would not go directly from the HRB to Trinity. It could have been disbursed to lots of universities, so it was not for Trinity at all. Is that correct?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: That is what you are saying.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: As I have already asked, how then was Dr. Holohan's salary to be paid? This reports states that his salary was to be paid by the Department of Health.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: The report we are discussing today.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: What was to happen?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Whatever HRB decided to allocate to Trinity, they were expected to pay his salary out of that.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: You mentioned earlier the period for this secondment. We spoke about the five years maximum, the six months and so on. For the ten year period of his secondment, because he will retire around 2032, this particular ring-fenced funding was to be made available. This included his salary, which would be paid to him by Trinity, but they would get nothing else.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Your decision was only about Dr. Holohan's salary. Is that correct?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: That was it.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: The HRB was then allowed to allocate whatever funding it decided.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Why, then, was Trinity saying that it could not afford this proposal?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: No, Trinity was saying it could not afford it.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: I do not disagree. This is not about whether it was a good idea or not. You have spoken about the public interest. We are here in the public interest. Everybody present is supposed to be here in the public interest. I cannot fathom this. You say this €2 million got mixed up in the media reporting. Is that it?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Through the media.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: How did you reach the figure of €2 million? It was €1 million. I know you have made reference to it before, but there were no costings on it. There was no background analysis apparently, to which we can refer, that would show us that the €2 million was better than €1 million. Obviously, €2 million is better than €1 million. How did you decide it?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Are you less serious when you offer €1 million? I would consider that to be a big figure.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: No, do not confuse the story. Maybe it is my fault. Maybe I am confused about some of the conclusions being drawn from what is happening now, and what went on back then. What went on back then was that nobody knew the detail. It took a long time for that detail to find its way to paper. Protocols were spoken about here in terms of how the decision was reached. I do not know any other...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: No, we will keep it simple. I am asking you the question. Did you commit to €2 million per year, including his salary, as part of this? It is a yes or no answer.