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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: In layman’s terms, "more expensive" means more money and "time-consuming" means it will take longer to resolve. It goes on to state: If the present approach to the insulation and ventilation system serving the critical areas in this hospital is not corrected, the systems will fail the final validation and will not be fit to be taken into use. Is that not what it says?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: The final paragraph sums up the children’s hospital in a nutshell: When the site visit was set up, it was intended to take two days, but because of the lack of progress, one day sufficed. Please note that the two days were programmed and the time allocated, flights booked and hotel accommodation reserved. We will therefore invoice accordingly. They came to do two days’...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Potentially, there is a problem that falls back on the design team. Independent experts were brought in to examine this and they found there is a major problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I have given the Mr. Devine the time to say that. However, with respect, I have to put this to Mr. Devine and I am putting it to Mr. Gunning as CEO. This company was brought in by CHI, is that not correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I understand that but I am saying it was CHI that would have brought them in, essentially, with NPHDB's support, and they are experts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Can Mr. Devine let me put the question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Yes, I understand. Allow me to put the question. I am accepting all of that. I am saying they were brought in as experts by CHI and supported by the NPHDB. They reported in May and said there was a problem. They came back in October and were hugely upset that the works were not done. They then reported back in November, identified more problems and in fact said it was very disappointing...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: But the problem here is that I can only go on the information we have, which is that we have an independent expert that was brought in that clearly has a different view and clearly is not satisfied with the air circulation-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: -----which we know is really important in operating theatres. I wish to make one final point. There are now workshops established. Can Mr. Devine confirm that BAM will be in those workshops but there are also other major contractors – mechanical and engineering – that will form part of those workshops?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: That is not the question I asked.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I do not have much time. I am asking Mr. Devine a direct question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I have given Mr. Devine time to say that. I wish to clarify this. Those experts and contractors are now in workshops, so they have not reported back-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Have they reported back?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I have a point of order, if I can make it very quickly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I respect Senator Conway, but we need to be very careful we are not putting figures out there that are not real figures. We all have a responsibility here. A figure was put out there that is not coming from the board. It is not a real figure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: It is just because figures can be put out which can then be misrepresented as real. I am just making that point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Mr. Gunning's opening statement was very hard-hitting and I do not think he should apologise for that because it is his job to make sure that the contractor does its job. He said its behaviour is unacceptable and he illustrated a number of examples, such as where there was only 65% progress and 35% compliance. I would imagine that relates to feet on the ground in terms of getting work done....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Mr. Gunning did so in his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: It is obvious from what Mr. Gunning is saying that one could use terms such as "go-slow", "slowing down the project", a "tactic" or a "strategy". From Mr. Gunning's perspective, it is certainly not providing the capacity that is needed to complete the job as quickly as it said it would. That is essentially what Mr. Gunning is saying.